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good evening ladies and gentlemen i am

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your host chris george zuger and you

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have entered the den of lore um

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please do pull your chairs up to the

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fire grab your glasses of scotch because

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we are going to learn some cool [\h__\h]

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tonight uh courtesy of a couple people

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first person on the docket today is uh

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well ryan from all culture um we're

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starting a little late today for two

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reasons one kind of having the day from

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hell uh but

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not gonna bother you guys with that it

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is all just about good times but i do

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apologize i think this is the latest

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we've started um and also in about 15

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minutes we're gonna have richard c

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hoagland on the show and we're gonna go

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until we finish so he's on mountain time

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and uh yep i have clearance from the

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wife to have

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this happening tonight so i'd like to

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thank you all for your patience

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and uh your love and your care and

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concern for all those in chat who are

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wondering if i'm okay

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um yeah kind of a little bit it's uh

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it's not um not the greatest day but

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it's still a good day it was a sunny day

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and on the channel with me right now is

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uh ryan from old culture uh ryan how you

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doing

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i'm just going to turn down

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the music in your microphone a little

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bit so um

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you know

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again first of all to to give a heads up

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um all culture you can go check it out

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on itunes or allculturepodcast.com

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um and also please don't forget to

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you know check out our fundly at um

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or i should say patreon patreon.comlore

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and i know we've got some new people who

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have signed up and i do apologize if

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if i forget some some names on this one

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i'm gonna try and figure this out for

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the broadcast and i will throw it up

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there but again for all of our patrons

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um you know you know who you are

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i will get to it to the end of the

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program i hope to goodness you

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understand that starting

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two hours late almost really sucks um

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but most of all i wanted to get um

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ryan from all culture on the podcast

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first and foremost

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and all culture is kind of like a cooler

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denilor if you like occult stuff

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and if you like your hosts with

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better beards

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um and i'll be appearing on an episode

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of there i'm not you know we're talking

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about uh the well a little bit about

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freemasonry and john anthony west and uh

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the funly and um you know the the jaw

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symposium

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and um

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yeah so i said [\h__\h] man i got some time

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on thursday had some time on thursday

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come check out the show uh so

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here we are so please tell me about all

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culture and tell me why you are so

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goddamn awesome besides the fact that

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you're really nice

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oh man well that's that's too kind to

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you man um well occulter is a show

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that's very similar to yours only

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uh i don't know nearly as much as you do

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so um but we we talk about more of the

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same kind of stuff only a little bit

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more about things like

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magic and astrology um

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a little bit of alchemy here and there

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and then really it's kind of all over

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the place um i take the word occult sort

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of literally

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uh you know it means hidden obviously

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and that's sort of how i look at my show

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i i don't really stick to the occult

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i like to pursue topics that that

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interest me and topics and stories that

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i think people should hear so that's

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what i talk about you know like your

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your aliens month fits right in with

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recently well guys like love phillips

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yeah well you know i know that some of

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the guests on there uh people like alex

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big sexy alex who is still outside of

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the den oh and i just have to turn my

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microphone up a little more

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um and what was it i i forget his name

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it's been a long day yeah yeah we were

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chatting about uh joe decat the other

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day he made this documentary called all

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the gold you can eat which deals a lot

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with like ormus

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and alchemy and making gold really too

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you know i started listening to that one

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um last night

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and i i gotta say it's it's probably

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gonna be my favorite out of all of your

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with that one yeah yeah okay so

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like that's kind of the idea of the out

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and it's probably more from like it's i

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thought it was more from an information

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history out of this or trying to be able

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to talk specifically about a topic and

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not just talk to a person and and get

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so yeah and i'm sorry i didn't mean to

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cut you off there but i'm i'm really

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interested too in in the personal side

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of the

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occult journey i guess for lack of a

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better phrase but

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uh i i really try to dig into

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how people got into the the field that

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they're in and how it's affected them

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throughout

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you know their career or their life

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that path is always that's of more

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to be honest you know i mean

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who doesn't want to talk about cool [\h__\h]

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right but that's what our tagline

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actually is well talk about right and

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also learn cool [\h__\h]

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right but i think it's

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to me it's even cooler to to really dig

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into the the psyche of the person that

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that you're speaking with to really

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figure out what makes them tick you know

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and how they got to the point that

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they're at now and why they chose that

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you know that's something like if i was

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richard hogan later like i wouldn't i'd

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probably spend the first 20 minutes

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talking about his life and not

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necessarily his work you know if that

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makes any sense

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we tried doing that i tried to plan out

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most podcasts and then at some point in

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holy [\h__\h] i don't have time to do all

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that in one shot how how do you do that

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it's it's hard i i do work a day job you

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most days this week we've had at least

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some sort of conversation so but i'm at

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work all day monday through friday man

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so when i get home

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i have my nose in a book or i'm

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so it's it's a non-stop process but

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uh and you know that as well as i do too

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uh yeah and that like that's the the

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everybody i i think i like when we were

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having our tet a tet or head head to

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i think that's a canadian thing that we

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say that uh and then we just like yeah

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you're like how do you do this like how

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do you like how what is your process and

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i said okay well you take the website

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here you do xyz and here you go and it's

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different than yours it's you know i'm

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podcasters because everybody's got a

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different way to do things and

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everybody's got a different way to to

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get to that uh you know to get to that

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manifestation that that alchemy that is

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getting our song

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our swan song through the intertubes

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you know all the way to your ears

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and yeah i really admire like the way

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that you do this you know and i

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just doing a live youtube stream and

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being able to just kind of sit down and

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talk off the cuff with people like i

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i'm really impressed with with you and

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your style because your your depth of

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knowledge is is just really like i i'm

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yeah for sure man i i've actually i'm

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it's a who's who of of of these fields

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you know laird scranton and i mean you

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got hogwin coming on tonight you've had

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lives like an hour from me and i i don't

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even know the guy yet but i've really

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been impressed with the two

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conversations that you've had with him

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and all the stuff in ohio because that's

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yeah it's a high in the middle around on

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the ends or something like that

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that's that's how that's how i actually

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remember that ohio and where it is

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within the reference to the to that part

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of the eastern united states it's

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one of the places i've always wanted to

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visit i i've every single person i've

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met from ohio has been absolutely

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dry witted but so kind hearted and very

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very salt to the earth place for the us

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yeah man like you should get down here

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and you know we we could hook up with

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ross and you know like maybe a few other

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people and hit up some of these ancient

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burial mounds over here yeah i've told

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ross it's like i gotta go check this out

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and i know that if i do that i've got a

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12 actually from where i am in canada

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it's about a 12 to 14 hour drive

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so if i'm doing that it's like i'm

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coming i need a couch to crash on and a

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place to buy some scotch because man

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it's going to be a long time

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i'm standing in my living room man

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there's a couch in here you're more than

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welcome anytime so oh man that's

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appreciated and you know i got a spare

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bedroom full of

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i'll clear stuff off the bed that i've

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stuff out of there and the occasional um

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pile of paper that seems to accumulate

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here in my office

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but yeah like we do that pretty quick if

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you ever want to come down to our come

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up to ottawa which is not as boring as

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it sounds we had a lot of cool stuff

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here we got we got some politics and

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maybe some hockey and um

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man right and and uh pro wrestling's big

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in canada too from what i hear i'm pro

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pro yeah for

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um i'm gonna make a very very sorry

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apology to adam and i'm gonna my friend

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adam who actually runs a wrestling

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podcast at a cornwall

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um

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wrestling sucks now it sucked for a

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while man switched to mma

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all right

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well like a lot of people like it here

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but it's

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wrestling hasn't been like he used to be

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big

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that but it's just the story lines get

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to a certain point and just overall the

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audience is dropped right off right off

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a cliff um i'm kind of also

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like noticing that as that kind of you

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know entertainment is kind of dropping

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off other forms of entertainment are

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starting to

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you know get on the rise like

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blue avians or you know the alien stuff

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that you're talking about you know there

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is an entirely new form of

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i just want to be able to escape and and

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you know this is something that

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interests me like how we have about like

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five minutes left before i bring richard

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on here um mike

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give me give me a quick run down you're

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too long didn't read of your esoteric

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and occult experience like how'd you get

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into it

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so

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my entry point to that was through music

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actually and uh the most recent episode

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that i put out was actually sort of an

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encapsulation of that um i'm a big fan

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of the band tool and and they have a lot

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of

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occult artwork and and their lyrics are

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very

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um they reference a lot of esoterica

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so

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a few years ago i had

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really started to research what their

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seven-pointed star means they use that

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in a lot of their artwork

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and that led me to john d

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and inaki and magic so i i consumed like

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dee's life for

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a couple of months and you know he's a

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fascinating figure if you don't know

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anything about him

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and then that also led me to the subject

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of alchemy which i find to be extremely

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fascinating and i'm not an expert on on

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anything by any means but i've done a

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lot of reading on the alchemical you

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know process and how it it's not just

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material you know how it

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sort of integrates into the psyche as

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well you know carl jung wrote a lot

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about that

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so those are kind of

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that's

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my entry point was was through that

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music and researching you know symbolism

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in bands that i like and then

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uh that turned me into or turning onto a

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whole new world of that i didn't know

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existed and here i am probably two or

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three years after that you know

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podcasting about it and really

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the show is just it's kind of like my

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own personal occult journey i

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don't really know

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much about anything yet i'm still

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learning as i go so

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when i'm talking to somebody you know

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like you

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or you know uh i had douglas rushkoff on

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who was a fantastic guest i'd recommend

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um some folks go check out that one but

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it's i'm really just learning these

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subjects as i'm going through the show

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and i i think that's a little different

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than a lot of people in the space

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because usually they come in and they're

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already

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you know very knowledgeable like i said

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you know i was complimenting you you

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know like you have this great

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depth of knowledge about all these

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topics and

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i'm still sort of like a novice so

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you're really like on a journey with me

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like you're kind of walking that path

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with me with each episode so i i don't

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know if that's a unique approach you

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know but it seems like

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everybody that i listen to in this field

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is really just like man i'm kind of

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blown away by the fact that

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that they know so much and and can

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retain so much because i have a problem

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like retaining a lot of information

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sometimes so

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it's uh it's it's really it's been an

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interesting process so far but um i'm

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stoked to be here because it it's

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helped me cross paths with guys like you

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and it's you know guys like me you know

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guys we are

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always and i always love how that all

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that and i'm gonna i'm gonna

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echo

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nice nice

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um i understand that journey that's kind

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of one of the reasons why we do this

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show and like i'm trying to piece

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together you know the lost city of

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atlantis while i get drink scotch or in

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this case a nice nice little nice little

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it's the only thing i can grab so

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um you know what either

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what was your nickname that you threw at

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me the other day the

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sir scotch a lot or something like that

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that was just a silly name oh god that's

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going to become a thing now

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it's going to stick hashtag sir scotch

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live

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right now listening to den of lore get

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that thing [\h__\h] in please [\h__\h]

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don't worry about it thank you very much

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uh we're gonna do an episode you and i

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full up um soon probably in september uh

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by the way since you are on the show i'm

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gonna let you know uh september 29th uh

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i'll talk about it but you're you're

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i'll i'll i'll involve you in something

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fun

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so uh

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that's the one year anniversary of my

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podcast that that's when i put out the

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first episode september 29th 2016. so

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it's the same that's another first

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broadcast

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[\h__\h] we need to do a co show

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we should man

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all right well you know we'll set it up

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i say that's a good idea it's like okay

435
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cool den of laura means oh culture

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denivel culture or something

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and something yeah we'll figure it we'll

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figure that out

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most of my decisions about this show are

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kind of done either when i'm drinking

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drunk or

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you know just off the cuff and then i

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just go with it it turns out to be

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pretty awesome usually

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so yeah

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no i totally agree with that i talked to

447
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anyways i gotta get out of here though

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you do your thing when coming on

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and uh before i go i just wanna be able

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to show you this uh for all of our

451
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patrons out there i do actually have the

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page up thank you very much and i know

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that i have one um paypal subscriber i

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do apologize i didn't get you on the

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list and it's i'll thank you very much

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at the end of the hoagland um

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at the end of the hoagland interview

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uh but for our

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patrons please load please load there we

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go thank you

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i'm gonna say with this one oh that's

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right uh for mrs fox uh roses for uh

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kevin fothe wayne joshua e-matic and

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ellen mccurdy thank you very much for

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being part of our master's program um

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this month is a little bit different we

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i did we did the 12-hour symposium on

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saturday which took about three weeks

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straight of time i'm gonna try and make

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sure that we can do a master's

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class either this week or early next

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week i have the guest lined up it's

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edward nightingale and um we're going to

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do a co

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you know we're actually going to have

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danny kerr as well as doug keenan on i

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just have to figure out the date and

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make sure everyone's available

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now

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also for the rest of our um

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for the rest of our patrons oh for uh

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dean john kenwood thank you very much

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for signing up uh and pledging for

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michael ikov thank you very much for

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supporting sentient love you man you've

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been here since the beginning um venus

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from magical egypt thank you for your

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support atlantic koosh that is awesome

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atlanta koosh thank you

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for your support uh now everyone who's

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in in our patron patreon we will

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actually have a draw which i'm going to

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announce next week

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and with that i believe you're supposed

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to be getting a either a hat mug or

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t-shirt so when i draw your name you let

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me know what you want even if you want

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it designed yourself if you want your

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own face with a den of lore logo on the

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front of it i can make that for you so

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we'll get that and i will get that

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mailed out for you and i'll probably

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arrive within about 2-3 weeks

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so watch the twitter watch the facebook

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and uh if you win i will email you

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directly and i will announce it on next

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week's show next week's show by the way

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is going to be on the 4th which is a

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friday cool thing with that is we're

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actually going to have a dr jerry

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dickens

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and this is the cool part uh he is going

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to go drill ice cores in the middle of

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the pacific and we're going to have him

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on the show

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to see those ice cores drilled right

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there hopefully if if his internet

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connection works so um

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just a little tidbit for that

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again

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thank you very much uh ryan i'm gonna

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talk to you do your thing and for all

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you just stick around while i bring

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[Music]

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puppy

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uh

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[Music]

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[\h__\h]

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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uh

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oh

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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you

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[Music]

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puppy

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oh

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so

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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hey

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[Music]

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up

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so

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[Music]

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ladies and gentlemen thank you very much

554
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,960
for your patience uh it it seems to be

555
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,480
that uh richard's having some technical

556
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,960
difficulties and i do apologize for that

557
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,800
so i am going to

558
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,079
open up the phone line since i got a

559
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:21,920
free skype right now i'm not sure who's

560
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,680
still out there and who's out there and

561
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,560
listening

562
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,720
uh but you know what you can give a call

563
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:28,400
one three four seven seven eight nine

564
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,359
seven nine seven seven let us talk

565
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:34,079
a little bit about aliens month so far

566
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,359
you know what let's just let's let's

567
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,200
talk about seeing what you want to see

568
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:39,359
for this year and next year and we we're

569
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,760
we're gonna you know let's do an open

570
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:43,119
lines because

571
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,400
if um uh richard is still

572
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,720
uh getting things going on his end and

573
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,079
again i hope to goodness if he is

574
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:51,920
watching this and i would like to let

575
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,880
him know

576
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,440
that

577
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:57,599
uh my email server was down today and

578
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,720
this is

579
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,800
for anybody who's been watching the show

580
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,800
uh knows that technical difficulties can

581
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,320
sometimes happen we've never missed a

582
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:06,160
show we've never had a guest cancel on

583
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,880
us

584
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,839
we've had guests uh be late based on

585
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:11,520
miscommunications when it comes to time

586
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:15,119
zones uh but um you know when it uh came

587
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,480
time we we knew that he was gonna be on

588
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,079
at 10 30. so i'm hoping that was not the

589
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,960
case and it does happen um but yeah

590
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:22,400
we've never missed a show i've never

591
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:24,800
canceled a show we have never missed a

592
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,760
guest um but in the last like today had

593
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,680
a mail server in the last week i've also

594
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,839
had some

595
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,079
family member hit health issues in in on

596
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:36,560
top of also having to

597
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,160
help be a part of the john symposium so

598
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,560
well essentially it's been at one thing

599
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,640
absolutely after another and a lot of

600
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,960
people don't realize or don't know just

601
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,160
the sheer

602
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:50,800
amount of effort or or

603
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:53,119
uh stuff that goes into even just doing

604
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:54,640
you know this this shona on a weekly

605
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:55,839
basis i

606
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:58,160
would i wonder how people like jimmy

607
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:01,200
church do it like if he didn't have rita

608
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,520
and his team and you know

609
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,040
with them every single step of the way

610
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:07,680
my goodness uh it's it's a lot for one

611
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,240
you know for for one person to do so

612
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,079
if um if i'm out of the house dealing

613
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,400
with a family emergency all day and uh

614
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,280
if there is a problem with uh

615
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:18,720
you know with the email server or if

616
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:20,720
like for instance my database went down

617
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,520
and

618
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,200
my actual server had been down so i'm

619
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,880
not receiving or sending anything i

620
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,480
didn't get anything through there past

621
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,320
four o'clock in the morning apparently

622
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,040
and i actually just got um you know got

623
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,960
the reception on my outlook when i got

624
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,880
home so uh richard if you're out there

625
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:37,280
if you're watching uh you know i i know

626
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,960
if you're you are late

627
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,800
then or if you're having any trouble

628
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:42,880
please don't hesitate to email me i am

629
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,200
actually receiving emails now um

630
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:47,200
apparently that's been up since about

631
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:48,240
9

632
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:49,280
50

633
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,200
9 51

634
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:53,119
so you can you can reach me by

635
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,280
um by skype or by email

636
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,040
or again if you just um you know you can

637
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:01,359
you can send me an email itself

638
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,160
and we can get things going if not

639
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:05,920
then uh you know what you can we can

640
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,240
email and we can reschedule it's not not

641
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,560
a big problem but again if you want to

642
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,960
call in it's a den of lore

643
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:14,480
and one three four seven seven eight

644
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,720
nine seven nine seven seven and i'm

645
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:19,200
gonna see what else i can uh i'm gonna

646
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,640
see what else i can wrestle russell up

647
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:23,280
here in the meantime uh denver if you

648
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:26,079
are online uh let me see if i can bring

649
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,800
you

650
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:28,640
bring it into the mix here

651
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:31,839
we can see we can do sandwich time

652
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:35,200
at least get that segment out of the way

653
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:42,550
hey denver how's it going

654
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:55,030
in the meantime

655
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,550
denver how you doing

656
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,400
hey what's going on man oh you know it's

657
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,560
a day um i've been trying to get a hold

658
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,560
of richard here and he seems to be

659
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,960
online but he's not answering the call

660
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,160
i'm not sure if he's having any

661
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,920
technical difficulties

662
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:09,760
are you having

663
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:13,359
technical difficulties on your end

664
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,680
maybe he's just blowing you off

665
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,119
you know that's a possibility but again

666
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,040
we don't know i'm just messing with you

667
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,760
man well you know it's um it's a it's a

668
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,440
possibility

669
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,920
that he's having some technical issues

670
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:28,000
and i don't know what has happened i've

671
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,599
been trying to get a hold of him

672
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:30,960
apparently none of my emails have been

673
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,320
going out again i've been out of the

674
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,880
house a lot this week a lot last week a

675
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,480
lot the week before that dealing with

676
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:38,000
some you know family issues while also

677
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,480
working i'm just a guy this is a hobby

678
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,079
uh so

679
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:43,920
but we're trying to do as well as we can

680
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,800
we got a really good community

681
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:48,480
so

682
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,670
all right well let's send he's receiving

683
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,440
looks like okay like he's i think he's

684
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,960
getting my like it's i'm it's showing

685
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,200
scent i'm not seeing received

686
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,280
so i'm not i'm not sure if

687
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,839
there's any issues on his end but um you

688
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,920
know what let's um while we're waiting

689
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,839
let's at least get the sandwich uh

690
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,040
counter out of the way and i want to

691
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,200
make sure that we can at least keep that

692
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:15,440
part of the show going and keep that on

693
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,400
track

694
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:17,280
uh

695
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,920
started i

696
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:27,920
sent him an inbox and tell him we're not

697
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:37,109
he was on facebook a little while ago oh

698
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,480
no i talked to him i let him know what

699
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:40,319
uh what's been going on

700
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:41,520
and he's just like it's like oh that's

701
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,800
never happened to me before i'm like

702
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:45,119
okay so you do understand

703
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,520
because you know you've got um

704
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,119
we have interesting times now i'm going

705
00:42:06,069 --> 00:41:52,960
to

706
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,470
so how about a megalith small

707
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,400
megalith month that would actually be

708
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,160
pretty good not egypt like other

709
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,720
megaliths other megaliths i'm also

710
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,319
thinking like if we got open lines and

711
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:18,640
jimmy churches on let me just call in

712
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:25,270
that would be hilarious i think i think

713
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:26,640
he'd kill me

714
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:38,790
um

715
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,710
like i've never had a week like this

716
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,760
before

717
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,520
ever

718
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:45,200
how was your week what do you got going

719
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:46,560
on as far as

720
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,359
um

721
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:49,599
crypto stuff the cryptozoology that's

722
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:52,480
ufo related it is aliens month

723
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:55,359
uh aliens related the only thing there

724
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,319
um

725
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:59,040
just to give people an update that uh

726
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,040
you know we uh unveiled those

727
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,760
photographs last week that my sister

728
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,960
took so

729
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,319
you know i've kind of been getting a

730
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,319
little bit of flack on facebook

731
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,079
everybody's kind of telling me it's a

732
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:12,800
solar balloon blah blah blah so just to

733
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,359
put that to rest me and my sister have

734
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:17,680
agreed to um you know conduct an

735
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:21,119
experiment with a 50-foot solar balloon

736
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:24,000
with a 400-foot tether

737
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:25,599
i don't think we're gonna it doesn't

738
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,400
look like

739
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,480
i had planned to do it this weekend it

740
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,000
doesn't look like we're gonna be able to

741
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,079
make that happen because we're supposed

742
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,400
to just get some hellacious rain down

743
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:36,880
here so uh it's looking like that will

744
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:39,280
probably be postponed to next weekend

745
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,839
but we're gonna take pictures and videos

746
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:43,040
and um

747
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,720
and then you know she's just gonna tell

748
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:45,920
me

749
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,880
you know either this is not what i saw

750
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:51,040
or this is what i saw and you know i'm

751
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,119
just gonna take her word for it because

752
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:54,960
you know and and i don't expect people

753
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,680
out there to but i will take her work

754
00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,359
for it

755
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,520
well that's the whole part of uh wanting

756
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,800
to believe is that you say that there

757
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,319
was always that there is always a

758
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,400
possibility that a

759
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,920
experiencer is actually experiencing

760
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,119
things

761
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:11,040
because that's that's half of the

762
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,079
that's half of that's half the battle um

763
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,760
yeah and you know that's that's the

764
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,040
thing i've been trying to explain to

765
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,520
people on facebook and twitter and stuff

766
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,280
when i show these pictures you know i'm

767
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:23,760
not claiming it's the mothership right

768
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,520
i'm just i'm just saying

769
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,000
um this shouldn't be here

770
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,920
and it's not a balloon

771
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:31,520
but you know everybody keeps telling me

772
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,480
it's a balloon so just just kind of and

773
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:35,839
you know i shouldn't really care what

774
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,880
people think but you know to be sciency

775
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,040
i guess we'll we'll take the you know

776
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,599
the biggest damn solar balloon that we

777
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:46,480
can find and we're going to um

778
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,760
you know we're going to conduct an

779
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,680
experiment and

780
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,520
and we can at least rule it out if

781
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:53,760
nothing else that's of course that still

782
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:56,960
doesn't mean it's a um you know it it's

783
00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:59,119
extra terrestrial but it it can at least

784
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:02,640
rule out the solar balloon thing

785
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:05,119
and

786
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,640
couldn't message her on youtube good

787
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:08,160
luck

788
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:09,359
uh

789
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,560
i'm talking to michael michael said i

790
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:12,720
was watching a bit on youtube but got

791
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,599
behind in live couldn't message while on

792
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,440
youtube good luck

793
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:18,880
um

794
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:20,240
i'm just going to add them see if i can

795
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:22,079
get a hold of them

796
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:23,599
that's you know i can't wait for at

797
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,119
least be able to get the video on that i

798
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:27,200
know that doing stuff like a live stream

799
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,349
and i'm more concerned with whether

800
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,359
it'll actually do stuff that we hoped

801
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:37,040
that it won't do which is to

802
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,400
stay still

803
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,319
and yeah i mean see that's the thing i

804
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:42,720
mean most of these come with a tether

805
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:45,520
but you know to get it to stay perfectly

806
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:48,000
still you would have to tether it on

807
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:50,720
both ends so whoever you know let's just

808
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,359
say that what she saw was you know

809
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,440
somebody you know somebody messing

810
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:57,200
around with one of these things you know

811
00:46:03,190 --> 00:45:58,480
they would have to

812
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:03,200
tether on both ends and then i think

813
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,720
that you know

814
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,640
people holding it you know they would

815
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,040
have had to anchor it to the ground so

816
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,720
that's actually what i'm gonna do on

817
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,560
this experiment i'm gonna i'm gonna

818
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,680
anchor it on two ends and then um

819
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,520
i i still don't think there's any way

820
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,839
that it can just stay horizontal like

821
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,079
you know you know the way that my sister

822
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,480
saw it for that period of time but just

823
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,400
to rule it out we're gonna we're gonna

824
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,560
do the experiment

825
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,560
i can't wait to see this

826
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,880
and yeah i'll definitely uh you know

827
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:34,560
take videos and i'll try to go like

828
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,910
well if you do that like post it to your

829
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:43,440
page and at least i could share to the

830
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,920
channel afterwards okay yeah that sounds

831
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,920
good we'll uh yeah like i said i don't

832
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,680
think that it's not going to happen this

833
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:52,480
weekend um the weather just looks like

834
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:55,119
it it's not going to work out so um but

835
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,640
but definitely uh you know if the

836
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,200
weather even halfway cooperates next

837
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:01,440
weekend we're gonna do it and and you

838
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,000
know this weekend also over the weekend

839
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,160
i went to the site where uh where she

840
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:08,800
saw it just to kind of you know i took

841
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,119
some pictures from where she was at and

842
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,040
uh you know just to kind of get an idea

843
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,440
of where the thing was how high it was

844
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,280
in the air and that sort of thing of

845
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:19,119
course you know not knowing the object

846
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,319
size

847
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,160
that's kind of hard to determine so

848
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,160
there's there's just too many unknowns

849
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,680
to really um

850
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,000
you know really guesstimate the height

851
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,319
or you know you can't triangulate things

852
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:31,839
without having

853
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,760
numbers you know

854
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,359
and if you have this type of balloon

855
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,520
where are you getting this balloon from

856
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:41,359
you know they sell these on amazon and

857
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,400
walmart they they have a a

858
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,960
a 50 foot solar balloon

859
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,760
and it comes with a with a uh you know

860
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:51,680
400 foot tether

861
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:53,920
so i'm gonna i'm gonna grab one of those

862
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,280
uh here we go probably off amazon and um

863
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,119
you know cuz that's probably you know if

864
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,160
this is a solar balloon that she saw

865
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,800
that's probably where it came from

866
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:06,640
um you know nobody's gonna spend a lot

867
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,240
of money on one of these the only thing

868
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,760
too though i mean

869
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,680
these things you know these things work

870
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,319
a lot better in cold weather you know

871
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:16,400
because they you know they're able to

872
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,720
get their lift and the difference in the

873
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:20,640
temperature from the uh

874
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,520
you know

875
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,760
the temperature difference

876
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,000
and so they work a lot better in a you

877
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,480
know sunny cold days

878
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:29,520
and

879
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:34,880
it was not real dark in color it was

880
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,520
metallic and shiny so that that's kind

881
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,599
of another thing too that you've got to

882
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,240
consider with wood um you know if if

883
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:44,640
this was metallic and

884
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,880
shiny that wouldn't really work very

885
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,960
well on a solar balloon it needs to be

886
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,599
dark and color to absorb that heat and

887
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:53,280
you know make it you know make the thing

888
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,109
okay

889
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,950
have to call let's see if i can actually

890
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:04,079
get him let's see if he actually picks

891
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:05,760
up i'm trying to see if he actually

892
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:12,230
please please please work please work

893
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,589
it's ringing

894
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,390
nope

895
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,270
more

896
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,800
nope other all right so at least i'm

897
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,240
going to show this

898
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:48,240
so that people actually have that is

899
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,119
from

900
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:50,720
this past week you know might as well

901
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,440
just delete that

902
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:55,119
that's from the symposium which was kind

903
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:58,640
of fun to do it's a long ass day my god

904
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:00,800
in heaven

905
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,910
and so we got this let's be able to show

906
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,359
you

907
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:08,400
man

908
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,520
we're calling we're not able to get

909
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,280
through so

910
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,920
uh again uh

911
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:15,440
if you're on the line and let you know

912
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,440
that we are here we are ready for you so

913
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,359
we got this

914
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,839
and uh whatever you would like to join

915
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:23,760
on please do send me a message

916
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:26,160
and uh we can we can get that going uh

917
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,520
so let's let's you know what let's at

918
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:29,040
least get the sandwich counter out of

919
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,559
the way and i'd like to again apologize

920
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:32,960
to everyone um looks like uh michael c

921
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:35,839
hoagland is richard richardson hoagland

922
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:36,880
because i've got denver michaels and

923
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,470
and oh here we go um hello hello mr

924
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,440
mr hoagland my goodness i'm i'm here

925
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:49,359
again thank you very much for joining us

926
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:52,240
um again i'd like to apologize if uh if

927
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:53,599
there was any technical difficulties on

928
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:56,079
your side or my side um i've been having

929
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,200
a lot of email issues uh today my my

930
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,559
server's been completely offline and

931
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:02,160
i've been having to rebuild the the

932
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,680
database from from the ground up since

933
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:05,520
about like eight eight o'clock

934
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:06,480
sounds

935
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,270
well somebody doesn't want these

936
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,040
interviews to go forward it's so obvious

937
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,119
i mean our show for two years has been

938
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:17,119
attacked in every way possible

939
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:19,280
electronically digitally

940
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,400
hacking

941
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,640
uh bizarre things

942
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:24,640
but we're still here so

943
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,800
in addition to that i tell you what

944
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,280
i've been having family become sick all

945
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,440
of a sudden and just issues with with

946
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:32,880
the health related to them in the last

947
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,559
couple of weeks leading up to this event

948
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,400
and it's all it's only been

949
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:38,559
during aliens month it's specifically

950
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:39,440
when

951
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,040
we actually have

952
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,880
a very important subject like we we had

953
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,920
um um

954
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,920
chris your your sound is cutting in and

955
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,680
out something i think maybe you're over

956
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,599
modulating a bit or something uh how

957
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:51,599
about that is that better

958
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,319
no

959
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,800
okay am i every time you speak it's

960
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:56,480
truncated it's like there's some kind of

961
00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:58,720
interference filter

962
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,160
okay um i'm not is that better

963
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,640
it's a little better okay i'm i'm just

964
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:05,680
turning up

965
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:07,280
my side

966
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:09,440
and i'm going to turn down the masters

967
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:12,319
just a little bit that's a good idea and

968
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,760
there we go

969
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,920
now we should have to if i'm too loud i

970
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:18,079
can modulate over here oh no we're good

971
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,200
on this end

972
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,119
okay and again i'd like to thank you

973
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,359
very much uh i do apologize for all of

974
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,839
the technical issues i noticed and i

975
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:27,520
remember from all the times that you

976
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,079
were on art bell and i actually grew up

977
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:32,079
listening to you with uh with a lot of

978
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:35,920
joy on on coast to coast as well as uh

979
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,640
the

980
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:39,040
arts several shows afterwards so it is a

981
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:40,880
pleasure and

982
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:43,119
if you have been uh ever on a show with

983
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:44,720
jimmy church you know that he normally

984
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,720
does his uh first time guest speech and

985
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:50,559
yeah your your weird modulations come

986
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,520
back i don't know what is is that better

987
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,839
no okay how about that

988
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,000
no we went way down in the base and it's

989
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:00,000
much too loud way down in the base much

990
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,599
too loud okay is that better

991
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:05,520
it's getting there back off on your mod

992
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:07,920
on your amp application on the master i

993
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:08,720
think

994
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,520
okay and are we good on that side

995
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:12,880
a little more

996
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:18,960
less that that that's good you got good

997
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:21,920
mix now oh fantastic

998
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:24,559
this is actually quite strange because i

999
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,520
was a former electronic music dj

1000
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:29,040
and turning up the bass is what we're

1001
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:30,319
used to doing

1002
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:33,040
so this is uh this is a little different

1003
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,200
so again uh ladies and gentlemen uh

1004
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:36,960
please do welcome richard c hoagland

1005
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,680
onto the show uh richard how have you

1006
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,520
been doing it it's it has been a while

1007
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,599
since i've caught one of your episodes

1008
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,880
and

1009
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:46,319
there is

1010
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,440
um

1011
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,960
a ton of new information i know that

1012
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,160
you've been getting

1013
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:52,079
over the last several months and several

1014
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:53,200
years

1015
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:54,000
since

1016
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,480
to uh either touch base with you or

1017
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,319
or um

1018
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,319
or or look into your work whether it's

1019
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,640
been college whether it's been family

1020
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:05,920
and

1021
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:09,280
important thing for anybody out there

1022
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,680
who is new to um the weather

1023
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,280
the question whether aliens have visited

1024
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:18,240
our solar system um from an earlier age

1025
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:19,839
uh richard c hoagland is the progenator

1026
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:21,440
of this he is

1027
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:22,160
uh

1028
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,760
again has been doing this since i

1029
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,760
believe the mid 70s according to your

1030
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,640
bio

1031
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:28,960
um has worked with uh with nasa has uh

1032
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,079
conducted uh numerous uh expeditions um

1033
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:34,720
uh you know over the ocean uh to be able

1034
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:35,920
to

1035
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:40,000
these places over an ocean and you you

1036
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:43,440
are the progenator of that of that main

1037
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:45,040
concept of

1038
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:46,800
discovering the lost artifacts and

1039
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:49,040
discovering those lost structures don't

1040
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,640
don't forget i was science adviser to

1041
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,480
walter cronkite during the apollo years

1042
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,920
and you were a scientific advisor to

1043
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:55,680
walter cronkite during those years as

1044
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:58,640
well yes uh and apollo being just passed

1045
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,200
uh and this being our aliens 48th

1046
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,200
anniversary last weekend 40th

1047
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,280
anniversary i know that there are some

1048
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,440
listeners who may have

1049
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,359
questions as to whether

1050
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:11,040
that actually happened

1051
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:13,359
and i actually at least i know a lot of

1052
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,400
photographers as well as videographers

1053
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,640
and every single one of them has told me

1054
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,640
back then we didn't actually have the

1055
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:22,880
technology to fake it it would have been

1056
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,119
easier to go to the moon than to

1057
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,440
actually fake the moon landing well

1058
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,680
stanley kubrick said this yes and

1059
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:31,520
stanley kubrick of course who was the

1060
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:33,280
genius producer

1061
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,839
director of 2001 space odyssey with my

1062
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,599
old friend arthur clark

1063
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:39,440
he said if they gave him an infinite

1064
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,559
amount of money he could not have

1065
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,640
created the optical effects

1066
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,359
because he wanted to for 2001

1067
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,520
and the state of the art the technology

1068
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:49,680
simply was not there

1069
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,400
and

1070
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,480
i whoever said it was easier to do it

1071
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:54,079
than it was to fake it is absolutely

1072
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,200
right

1073
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,359
now of course these days

1074
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:59,680
it's a totally different situation

1075
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:01,359
i mean if you watch some of the stuff

1076
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,640
that you can do

1077
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,839
on a mac

1078
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,599
or on a laptop

1079
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,839
and put on youtube it's it's equivalent

1080
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:09,680
to spielberg or the

1081
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,640
the uh

1082
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:13,440
what's his big special effects house

1083
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:15,119
up there in marin county

1084
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:17,359
so yeah now it's so hard that's why the

1085
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,040
whole ufology

1086
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,359
field i think is pointless because you

1087
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,280
really cannot tell now if it's real if

1088
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:24,799
it's memorex

1089
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:28,559
the digital cgi is so damn good

1090
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,839
that every photograph has to be suspect

1091
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,520
now let me tell you the area of eg

1092
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,920
studies where that's not true

1093
00:56:41,069 --> 00:56:38,400
and that's in the nasa archive footage

1094
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:41,079
of the whole solar system looking for

1095
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,160
extraterrestrial ruins

1096
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,040
because if you see ruins on official

1097
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,920
nasa imagery that cannot be dealt with

1098
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,640
because it's in the nasa archive

1099
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,640
so why would nasa be faking ruins on its

1100
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,400
own pictures

1101
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:58,079
then you know you've got source data you

1102
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:01,040
can trust and that's why for decades i

1103
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:02,720
have pursued the extraterrestrial

1104
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:05,200
archaeology avenue as opposed to the

1105
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:09,040
ufology avenue because ufos pun intended

1106
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:12,000
don't stand still

1107
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,359
that's one of the most difficult things

1108
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,000
about being able to film a ufo uh i have

1109
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,160
ufo researchers who

1110
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,319
that are friends of mine who go out with

1111
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:22,880
you know multi ten thousand dollar

1112
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:25,760
uh five camera setups with um you know

1113
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:27,520
with night vision and they can catch

1114
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:30,480
very interesting strange movements

1115
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,119
on on camera yeah that's that that's an

1116
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,960
interesting thing but see

1117
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,880
the middle of the curve the great mass

1118
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:39,280
of people who have been raised on star

1119
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,839
wars and star trek and alien

1120
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,599
they're not moved by little points of

1121
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,319
light that do non-newtonian things

1122
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,160
you can spend from now to the cows come

1123
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,920
home showing this dot moving in an

1124
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,280
erratic fashion

1125
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:53,280
and they have no reference so they don't

1126
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,079
know how incredibly impossible that is

1127
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:58,160
therefore it does not impress them

1128
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,079
therefore it doesn't change the politics

1129
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,720
and even with the politics

1130
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,680
the disclosure movement has shifted in

1131
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:08,880
ways

1132
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,359
the last couple of years i'm uh like we

1133
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,440
had uh stephen

1134
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:15,280
well you know the the idea of the

1135
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,480
rationalist

1136
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,799
side and attacking the problem from the

1137
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,720
political side as an activist to try and

1138
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,559
at least if you're going to try and get

1139
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:24,960
disclosure to get it from from their way

1140
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:27,359
to try and convince them in a logical

1141
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,799
fashion that okay this is why you should

1142
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:30,960
disclose this is the benefits of you

1143
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,520
personally supporting disclosure

1144
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:35,200
or you can go the other route which is

1145
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:38,079
to again communicate with with those you

1146
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,280
know try and communicate with those

1147
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,680
extraterrestrials and in some manner or

1148
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:43,440
some way

1149
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,400
and

1150
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:46,559
i've always found that it's

1151
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,240
the disclosure is not necessarily as

1152
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,680
important

1153
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,760
from that standpoint because

1154
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,839
anybody who believes in ufos

1155
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,680
who has seen ufo

1156
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:57,200
they know that

1157
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:01,040
the ufo phenomena is something

1158
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:03,440
chris who's inside

1159
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,680
you know everything rests on who's

1160
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,000
piloting these vehicles where are they

1161
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:11,040
from what is their agenda the very idea

1162
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,880
of an extraterrestrial vehicle is kind

1163
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:14,480
of boring it's like you know getting

1164
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:17,520
excited about a 747 after you see the

1165
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:19,440
third one or the fourth one

1166
00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,760
but who's inside is everything and

1167
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:23,520
that's the avenue of our research which

1168
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:24,240
is

1169
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,160
we're looking at extraterrestrial

1170
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:28,319
archaeology

1171
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,040
stunning images on the surface of mars

1172
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:35,280
taken by the curiosity spacecraft

1173
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,160
showing absolute bonafide ancient

1174
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:41,280
rusting corroding ufos i.e flying

1175
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,319
saucers lying on the martian deserts

1176
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:47,200
no question zero doubt

1177
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:48,799
i do have interesting questions

1178
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:53,200
remaining about who used to fly them

1179
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,079
and that raises this huge

1180
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,200
you know discussion of who are we really

1181
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,760
talking about who's flitting around

1182
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,280
abducting people

1183
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,000
visiting us giving us information and

1184
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:08,480
setting us up for the big disclosure of

1185
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:13,359
who the hell the human race really is

1186
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,720
there are a couple of theories that i've

1187
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,960
heard regarding that and i i may have

1188
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,720
even had an email exchange with you at

1189
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:19,760
one point

1190
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,000
many many years i would say about seven

1191
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,680
years ago possibly

1192
01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:25,040
possibly more

1193
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:26,319
and

1194
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,440
the idea of that humanity is not

1195
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:31,440
necessarily from the solar system has

1196
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,480
always been

1197
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:35,040
one particular part of discussion well

1198
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:37,440
that has not been more fine-tuned

1199
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:39,359
the when i originally wrote about all

1200
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,920
this which was monuments of mars a city

1201
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:43,839
on the edge of forever it's now

1202
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:46,160
i think it's in its fifth edition

1203
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:47,680
and each edition we made it bigger

1204
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:49,359
because we stuffed more inside the

1205
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:52,079
blibbet including photographs

1206
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:53,440
at some point we decided well you gotta

1207
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:54,880
go write another book and that was dark

1208
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:57,680
mission but in monuments i raised the

1209
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:01,200
idea pretty early in this this research

1210
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,440
process this thinking process

1211
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:05,359
because if we were seeing stuff on mars

1212
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:08,559
given how inhospitable mars is

1213
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:11,680
it had to have been from someplace else

1214
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:13,839
and the only two other places that made

1215
01:01:18,789 --> 01:01:16,240
sense at that time given our limited

1216
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,799
knowledge then back in the 80s 87 was

1217
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,119
when i wrote monuments

1218
01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:23,200
was that it either was a previously

1219
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:25,599
unacknowledged advanced civilization

1220
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:26,960
from earth

1221
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:28,640
human civilization that went to mars

1222
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,280
colonized colony died and we're looking

1223
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:33,920
at ruins of colonies right

1224
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:34,960
or

1225
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:36,720
it was someone from outside the solar

1226
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,599
system who came to this solar system

1227
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:41,760
and colonized mars

1228
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:44,240
not earth because mars was more like

1229
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:47,520
their home world and without incredible

1230
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:49,920
adaptation modification they couldn't

1231
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:52,000
live on earth because of well primarily

1232
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:53,599
the gravity

1233
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:55,119
okay

1234
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,200
so as we fast forward the film now to

1235
01:02:02,470 --> 01:01:59,520
2017 and we look at the new data that we

1236
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,480
put put together in this incredible new

1237
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:04,160
book it's called it's going to be called

1238
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:07,440
hidden mars a war in heaven

1239
01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:10,480
and i'm the lead author of seven

1240
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,319
tetrahedral seven

1241
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:14,400
of people with incredible ranging of

1242
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,720
backgrounds diverse opinions diverse

1243
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:18,079
expertise

1244
01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:19,520
and they've all come to this conclusion

1245
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:21,119
oh my god there's stuff

1246
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,960
there and it's our stuff

1247
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:24,640
but how they get there and what they

1248
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:26,640
think about it and their data their

1249
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:29,520
evidence is varied all over the map so

1250
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:30,720
this is going to be

1251
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,799
the definitive

1252
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,400
everything you ever wanted to know about

1253
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:36,559
extraterrestrial civilizations and the

1254
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:37,440
human

1255
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:40,079
connection to them that you ever wanted

1256
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:41,040
to ask

1257
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,000
and that's about to be published

1258
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:48,319
probably before the end of the year

1259
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,760
very optimistically when we got into

1260
01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:51,119
this i thought we could have it out by

1261
01:03:04,870 --> 01:02:51,839
the

1262
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:04,880
scientific principles to any of this

1263
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,520
there's evidence there's a process

1264
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,359
you know you don't rely on sources you

1265
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,520
don't you know look for sneaky emails

1266
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,200
from people that pretend to know

1267
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:15,280
everything and you don't go to websites

1268
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:17,680
that come up constantly showing the

1269
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,000
latest thing on google maps which of

1270
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:22,400
course is nothing but just noise

1271
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:23,839
you have to go back to the original

1272
01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:26,720
source data which means nasa archives

1273
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:29,119
either digital or hard copy a lot of our

1274
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:32,079
data is hard copy certainly of the moon

1275
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,920
because we got in on the ground floor

1276
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,000
when no one else was doing this and we

1277
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:38,400
could literally go to nasa at goddard

1278
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:41,440
and have our associates go there and get

1279
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:44,640
hard copy negatives of original nasa

1280
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:47,760
data to be scanned and printed and

1281
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:50,960
magnified and enhanced and examined

1282
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:52,880
so everything we're doing goes to

1283
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,200
original sources which is what was so

1284
01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:57,520
exciting about the chinese robotic

1285
01:04:02,150 --> 01:04:00,400
mission the cheng-3 jade rabbit mission

1286
01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:02,160
to the moon back in

1287
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:04,480
2013

1288
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,839
they send a probe to the moon

1289
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:09,520
which has a little rover on it called

1290
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:12,000
jade rabbit all part of the chinese

1291
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,680
mythology about the goddess of the moon

1292
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,520
living in the moon and having a pet

1293
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:17,200
rabbit

1294
01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:19,760
and they land not where they announced

1295
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,160
they're going to land but they land in a

1296
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,480
place called mari imbrium

1297
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,119
wonderful latin name meaning the ocean

1298
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:29,200
of storms

1299
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:32,000
and they land suddenly without notice

1300
01:04:35,789 --> 01:04:34,240
at 44 degrees

1301
01:04:38,829 --> 01:04:35,799
north

1302
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:38,839
19.5 west

1303
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,640
19.5

1304
01:04:44,230 --> 01:04:41,839
really

1305
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:44,240
are you serious guys

1306
01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:45,760
because of course if you follow our work

1307
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:48,559
you know that 19.5 shows up again and

1308
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:50,079
again and again and again and again and

1309
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:52,160
again and again and again in the data in

1310
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:54,000
the artifacts and the physics in

1311
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,280
everything we've been doing for the last

1312
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:57,359
30 some years

1313
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:00,720
so the chinese land deliberately at 19.5

1314
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:02,880
and 44 north

1315
01:05:07,510 --> 01:05:06,319
why 44 north oh let's see they landed

1316
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:07,520
during the

1317
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:08,880
presidency

1318
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,319
of the 44th president of the united

1319
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:13,839
states

1320
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,640
in other words codes

1321
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:18,720
so we're wrote a whole piece on the

1322
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,520
enterprise mission just go look for it

1323
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:23,200
i think the title is something like what

1324
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:25,760
are the chinese really up to or whatever

1325
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:27,119
before the end of the show i'll go to

1326
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:28,400
enterprise and i'll look it up and i'll

1327
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:30,640
give you the exact title because it kind

1328
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,440
of summarizes the end of a 30-year story

1329
01:05:37,829 --> 01:05:35,440
where we start out with

1330
01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:37,839
nasa imagery apollo imagery from the

1331
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:40,799
astronauts of structures on the moon

1332
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:43,200
real structures which of course is why

1333
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,160
the whole

1334
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:46,319
nonsense about we never went to the moon

1335
01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:48,559
developed because it was like trying to

1336
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,920
distract from the real data with a fake

1337
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:53,440
story

1338
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,920
how i was at jpl

1339
01:06:03,510 --> 01:05:59,839
working for cbs

1340
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:03,520
watching nasa literally begin the very

1341
01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:07,440
cover story at jpl that we never went to

1342
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,559
the moon

1343
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:11,280
nasa is its own source for then we never

1344
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,720
went to the moon

1345
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,319
hoax

1346
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:15,680
why

1347
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,280
to cover up what they really found which

1348
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:21,520
was extraterrestrial

1349
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:23,200
ruins

1350
01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:24,720
oh and along the way they also had to

1351
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,520
brainwash all the astronauts

1352
01:06:31,829 --> 01:06:29,760
and we also have data on that in dark

1353
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:31,839
mission so yeah i've been at this quite

1354
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:33,119
a while uh

1355
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,440
chris and and i have come to the

1356
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:37,920
conclusion that long before trump coined

1357
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:39,520
the term fake news

1358
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:42,160
nasa was coming to us with fake science

1359
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:44,000
its real mission has been totally

1360
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,880
different

1361
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:47,039
from its pretend mission

1362
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:49,280
its real mission is to explore

1363
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:51,680
the ancient outlines of an ancient human

1364
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,920
civilization all over the solar system

1365
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,839
while it pretends to be doing civilian

1366
01:06:59,349 --> 01:06:57,520
science and looking at rocks and

1367
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:59,359
measuring radiation

1368
01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:01,200
that's the biggest fake news

1369
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:04,720
in the solar system and it's about to be

1370
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:05,920
uncovered

1371
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,079
i now have a date when it will be

1372
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:10,480
uncovered which i can announce on your

1373
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,599
show tonight

1374
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:13,599
and i can tell you we're already in the

1375
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:17,680
disclosure window it began last week

1376
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:21,440
afternoon tuesday july 18th during the

1377
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:24,000
48th anniversary of the mission to the

1378
01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:25,680
moon apollo 11

1379
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:28,480
and it started at the house committee on

1380
01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:30,799
science base and technology when the

1381
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:32,799
vice chairman of the committee

1382
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:35,520
congressman dana rohrbacher from the

1383
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48th district of southern california

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48th congressional district which

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01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:43,440
encompasses the famed orange county

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01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,160
when dana rohrbacher looked at the face

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01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:49,200
of six or seven nasa representatives

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01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,799
sitting in the witness

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01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:52,400
table in front of him as part of the

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01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:53,839
committee hearing

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01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:56,079
and he asked them gentlemen he says i'm

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01:07:59,589 --> 01:07:58,640
paraphrasing i have one most important

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01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,599
question

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01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:01,680
has there ever been an ancient

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01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:03,839
civilization on

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01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,920
mars

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01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:07,920
disclosure has

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begun

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i was very excited to be able to hear

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01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,680
that with

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01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,080
with that announcement um

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01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:18,640
and again we haven't had uh much of an

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01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:20,319
opportunity because of

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01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:23,040
well my tactical issue started last week

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01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:25,359
actually about the same time last week

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01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:28,560
and this is the extent that

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01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:29,600
you know if there's going to be a

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01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:31,199
government cover-up it's going to be the

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01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:34,719
long game i announced you on the show

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01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,199
four weeks ago five weeks ago so they

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01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,359
knew that you were coming on here

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01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:42,480
a big fat target thank you and and i'm

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:44,080
i'm

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01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:45,440
i know that you

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01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,560
as a man of science and a man of of uh

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01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,920
heavy research and somebody who

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01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:51,520
appreciates the data and wants that

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01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:53,279
truth to be able to come out does have

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01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:56,239
that big target on your back so

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01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:57,839
to be able to give you an idea normally

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01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:59,600
we try and plan the show out

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01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,880
and we do

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01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:02,480
a basic outline

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01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:05,279
for the most part it is a conversation

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01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,199
as two friends meeting together sitting

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01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,839
down at a couch or you know uh

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01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,679
you know wing back chairs imagine

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01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:14,080
there's nice a nice fire and we both

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01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:17,120
have a nice 18 year old scotch in hand

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01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:18,640
that that that's the general idea that

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01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:20,560
we have here on the show and wherever we

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01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:22,719
end up we always part as friends or as i

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01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:25,440
told mike barrow last week um imagine

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01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,480
that i'm

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01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,560
you know your best friend's uh annoying

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01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,640
younger brother and i

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01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:32,560
and i have to go with him

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01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:34,799
because mom said so and wherever the

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01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:36,880
conversation goes i'm not getting dunked

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01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,120
um headfirst into the toilet so either

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01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:41,199
way you'd like to take that it's uh much

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01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:42,560
appreciated

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01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:44,400
but open-ended if there's a subject you

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01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:46,000
want to bring up if there's language you

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01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,239
want to use we do not take sponsors here

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01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,640
specifically so no wait wait wait i'm

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01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:52,480
not going to do a scaramucci on you oh

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01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,320
no no i'm what i'm what i'm saying is

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01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,080
that we do not we do not restrict the

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01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:58,560
subject matter on here it is open-ended

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01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:01,440
um and the anything that can happen mode

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01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:04,080
is is how we operate so okay well

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01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,920
i mean i kind of assumed that oh yes

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01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:07,920
that's the way any real journalism these

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01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:10,239
days has to be pursued

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01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:11,600
and that's what we do on the other side

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01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:13,120
of midnight have you talked about my

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01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:15,040
show for the other side of midnight we

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01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:17,120
we did not talk about it briefly

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01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,239
i had to

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01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:19,920
well i had two of my co-hosts not

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01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,000
knowing how bad the tactical issues with

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01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:24,080
you uh with your side were so i wanted

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01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,320
to make sure the the air was filled up

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01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,320
and explained to the individuals at home

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01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:30,239
that we were we we we were taking care

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01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,199
of that

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01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:33,440
oh there we go

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01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:35,920
let me see who that is not a problem no

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01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:38,159
it's it's it's california okay i can

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01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:39,920
actually get rid of that

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01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,880
i think i'll take the phone off the hook

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01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,120
and they don't know i'm in an interview

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01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:46,960
and so they're probably asking are you

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01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:49,120
going to do the interview

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01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:50,640
they must have tried to tune in when you

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01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,159
initially wanted to set this which was

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01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:54,480
what for almost an hour ago uh

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01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:55,679
originally you would said it was

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01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,440
mountain time at 10 30 and i said okay

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01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,280
well you know i it normally we just we

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start at 8 30. um we would normally

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01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,000
started no no i said mountain time 8 30.

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01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,840
yeah which is 10 30 my time

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01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,520
oh so you're not in mountain okay no no

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01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,360
i'm i'm in eastern i'm in ottawa's

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01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:11,120
nation capital in canada

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01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,560
ah toronto

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01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:14,400
um no ottawa it's it's about i don't

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01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,880
know i'm sorry five hour drive

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01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,400
oh don't worry everyone mixes it up all

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01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:20,320
the time it's uh

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01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:21,920
see i've never been to ottawa i have

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01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:23,520
been to toronto and i have had dinner up

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01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:25,199
in that sky needle which was the most

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01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,640
amazing

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01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:28,719
experience aside from seattle's space

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01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:29,920
needle that

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01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,000
no one can have so all you folks there

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01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:34,000
are tourist junkies go over to toronto

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01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:35,679
have dinner up in the needle and you'll

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01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:37,120
have a good time it's actually a

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01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:39,199
communications tower i think

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01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:41,920
i believe it well it it is also yes uh

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01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:44,960
in addition to a very large tourist area

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01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:47,600
they even have a glass floor uh in one

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01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,520
section so that you can actually stand

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01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,960
at one of the tallest

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01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:52,800
of that those are kind of becoming the

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01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:53,840
rage

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01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,239
i know the native americans in the uh

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01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:59,040
hubba supai nation out in the grand

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01:12:02,149 --> 01:12:00,159
canyon

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01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:02,159
built a sky bridge out over the rim of

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01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:03,360
the canyon

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01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:05,280
and the engineering to do that and have

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01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:08,719
the floor with multiple layers of glass

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01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:11,199
and people feeling safe as well as being

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01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,280
safe i mean it's become a big rage

1520
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:15,600
people love to stand over nothing now

1521
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:18,640
i'm kind of intrigued with that

1522
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:20,080
and that noise in the background will go

1523
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:21,440
away that's the

1524
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:24,239
the phone trying to quietly die

1525
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,800
as sun sets in the west anyway so chris

1526
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,159
where were we well we were talking about

1527
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:31,440
the other side of midnight and i wanted

1528
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:33,199
did you ever hear the background story

1529
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,679
of how i got into radio

1530
01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:37,679
um i believe that there was it was

1531
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,960
briefly touched on uh but i did not have

1532
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:42,719
the full the full story i actually

1533
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:45,120
wanted to hear it from from you directly

1534
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,360
okay well two years ago this july july

1535
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,520
uh well actually it was it was it was

1536
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:53,120
before july but the actual formal

1537
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:56,239
beginning of the show was july 21st but

1538
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,880
several months before art and i had a

1539
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,159
conversation

1540
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:02,400
and he said would you like your own show

1541
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,040
on the dark matter network which was the

1542
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:07,360
radio network that he he owns with keith

1543
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:09,040
keith roland

1544
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,159
and i said uh well let me tell george

1545
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,719
and he was kind of he got increasingly

1546
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:16,800
exasperated because i kept looking for

1547
01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:19,040
the right moment to tell george

1548
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,360
and the moment never arrived because

1549
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:23,120
george beat me to it

1550
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:26,960
and fired me from coast one night

1551
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,679
in a very bizarre way totally totally

1552
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:31,440
bizarre

1553
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,440
actually given my history with the show

1554
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:35,520
it was outrageous it was trumpy and

1555
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,600
bizarre now that we have that new

1556
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,360
standard

1557
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:41,280
and then art and i talked and i said

1558
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,040
well maybe i have to come over there

1559
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,199
sooner than we talked and he said okay

1560
01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:47,520
you know we're standing by et cetera so

1561
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:49,280
i went to dark matter

1562
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:51,840
and we crafted a show that i would have

1563
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:54,159
you know interviews and conversation

1564
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:55,920
following his show which was called

1565
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,400
midnight in the desert

1566
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,400
and i thought you know i thought to

1567
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,400
myself what what can i call this thing

1568
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:04,880
how can i i'm not a talk show person i'm

1569
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:06,960
not art bell what why would people want

1570
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:07,920
to listen

1571
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:10,800
to stuff i would do for two three hours

1572
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:13,600
and um i thought about it long and hard

1573
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,360
i thought about the you know the

1574
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,600
logistics because when you have a five

1575
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:19,600
night a week show you basically can't do

1576
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:21,360
anything else that that's your life

1577
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:22,960
doing that particularly if you're doing

1578
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,600
it any level of professionalism

1579
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,080
and for the first year i did every

1580
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:30,640
single you know friday saturday sunday

1581
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,800
monday that kind of thing and it was

1582
01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,960
killing oh it was totally because i

1583
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:36,800
couldn't do any research

1584
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:39,040
could not you know look at a frame

1585
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:40,320
couldn't i you know i was constantly

1586
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:43,040
chasing guests i was chasing good guests

1587
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,520
not just mediocre people that want to be

1588
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:47,520
on you know radio

1589
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:50,000
i was chasing themes i was looking at

1590
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:51,679
ways we could structure the program that

1591
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:53,920
would be kind of a foreshadowing of when

1592
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,400
we're in the disclosure phase because

1593
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:58,320
our calculations said it was going to be

1594
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:01,120
2017. and i kept saying to art over and

1595
01:15:05,669 --> 01:15:03,280
over again this is tying perfectly this

1596
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:05,679
is absolutely where you're coming back

1597
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,960
again

1598
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,560
because you know he's been away and come

1599
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,719
back quite a few times right i said well

1600
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:12,080
this time you've actually picked the

1601
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,760
right time because this is it

1602
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,080
and he very skeptically said well

1603
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:18,159
i don't know

1604
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:20,159
anyway so

1605
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:22,719
as the program evolved you know i needed

1606
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:24,640
a title i needed a name

1607
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,159
so i'm thinking i'm thinking suddenly it

1608
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:27,760
occurred to me

1609
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:28,960
why don't we do

1610
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:30,320
you know he's going to do midnight in

1611
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:31,360
the desert

1612
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:32,640
why don't we do

1613
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:34,880
the other side of midnight

1614
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:37,040
which was kind of an inside pun

1615
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,800
because i'm not art i have ideas that

1616
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:40,560
are very different than arts in several

1617
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:43,520
arenas like i think that the disclosure

1618
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:44,880
that we're not alone is going to save

1619
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:48,480
the human race our tanks is going to con

1620
01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:50,640
you know it's kind of different

1621
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,400
so yeah the item tonight well

1622
01:15:58,270 --> 01:15:57,040
the most extraordinary soap opera

1623
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,280
ensued

1624
01:16:05,830 --> 01:15:59,920
involving

1625
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:05,840
guns by him leaving the air by him

1626
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:08,800
retiring suddenly again permanently

1627
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:11,120
by us being left at dark matter not

1628
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,159
knowing whether we're going to have a

1629
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,760
show the next night

1630
01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:15,920
and then keith sending me a message yes

1631
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:17,120
you know and then

1632
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,960
instead of putting me on where art had

1633
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:21,440
been which was the logical radio thing

1634
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:23,440
they took this obscure woman out of

1635
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:25,120
nowhere heather

1636
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:26,880
who ever heard of heather

1637
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:28,480
who apparently never had any radio

1638
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,440
experience and they gave art gave her

1639
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:33,199
arts five hours

1640
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:35,040
i mean can you imagine chris you do a

1641
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:37,440
show can you imagine doing a show five

1642
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:40,320
nights a week five hours per night

1643
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,640
um yeah uh believe it or not and i i'm

1644
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,920
i'm sure you're familiar with uh with

1645
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,520
john anthony west

1646
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:48,000
yes of course uh we actually just how is

1647
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:51,600
he uh he is uh slowly recovering um we

1648
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:55,199
we did a symposium uh with um

1649
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,520
a slew of a slew of his his

1650
01:17:02,790 --> 01:16:59,760
contemporaries as well as uh colleagues

1651
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,800
to to raise money um and i played a very

1652
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:04,640
small part and the the funneling itself

1653
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:06,640
was actually suggested originally uh by

1654
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:08,640
graham hancock who who

1655
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,000
has been who's been a man that you know

1656
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:12,080
time and time again has gone the like

1657
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:14,400
gone well above and beyond for for his

1658
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:16,480
friends and family and

1659
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:17,520
uh

1660
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:19,679
like he'd suggested it to a family

1661
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:21,840
friend of of john's which is clayroop

1662
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:24,880
who set up a fund lee crowdfunding and

1663
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,719
we've been help like

1664
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:28,880
helping him out to clay out as as i know

1665
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,280
that clay's been basically by john's

1666
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:32,880
side as much as he could

1667
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:34,480
along with the rest of his family and we

1668
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:39,120
did uh 12 hours on on saturday saturday

1669
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:40,480
and that was the second time the first

1670
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:42,000
one we did in february was about nine

1671
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:44,080
nine and a half but it was essentially a

1672
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:45,679
72-hour day

1673
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:48,719
for non-stop not non-stop shot

1674
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:50,400
um of just like work and getting things

1675
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:52,159
going and having like

1676
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:53,760
you know technical issues here and there

1677
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:55,360
and i'm starting to think that with your

1678
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:56,960
technical issues and stuff that happened

1679
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,199
today plus everything that happened last

1680
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:00,960
week it's like it's you know the

1681
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:03,360
computers are conspiring against us

1682
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:05,440
specifically it's not the case it's not

1683
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:07,520
the computers it's people directing

1684
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:10,080
attacks executional attacks against this

1685
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:11,520
kind of programming

1686
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:13,280
and the reason is because they've

1687
01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:15,360
already lost the war is this real or

1688
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:16,800
memorex

1689
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:19,520
now the war is going to be for what does

1690
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:21,760
it mean

1691
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:24,480
they that inevitable they

1692
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:27,920
do not want independent voices they

1693
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:29,440
can't control

1694
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,080
i mean look at this attack from the top

1695
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:34,880
of the u.s government now against the

1696
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:37,280
the fourth estate against a free

1697
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:39,679
press in the united states

1698
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:41,280
unprecedented

1699
01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:43,760
where you get people to doubt

1700
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:47,120
the veracity of that which they hear

1701
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:48,400
and of course you can't throw people

1702
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:50,320
willy-nilly on the internet because the

1703
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,120
internet is a cesspool of disinformation

1704
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,199
gosh trying to keep your head in the

1705
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:57,840
internet if you don't know how to sift

1706
01:19:01,910 --> 01:18:59,840
noise from data

1707
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:01,920
is almost impossible and most people

1708
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:04,320
have no background no training they read

1709
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:05,520
five different websites and they'll

1710
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:08,480
believe everything they read

1711
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:10,080
that has been one of the crusades that

1712
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:11,199
we

1713
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:13,120
uh kind of fight against here on the den

1714
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:15,520
of lore like we're we're we are a show

1715
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,560
that well we don't take any [\h__\h]

1716
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:19,679
we don't we don't deal with scare

1717
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:21,440
mongering we don't deal with

1718
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:22,880
with fear tactics

1719
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:26,239
i call it fear porn exactly well i got

1720
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:27,920
actually i think i got that term from

1721
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:31,280
from you using that term um and

1722
01:19:35,189 --> 01:19:33,520
we you know like i'm willing to listen

1723
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:35,199
to any any idea and listen to any

1724
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:37,280
concept as long as there is some

1725
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:38,880
rational basis and it can be explained

1726
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:40,960
either through data or through logic to

1727
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:43,120
try and rec you know get to that point

1728
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:44,719
and

1729
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:47,120
when it comes to a lot of the

1730
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,880
the disinformation websites out there

1731
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,400
that are going to say like okay well

1732
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:52,080
fear fear you know

1733
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,600
this is what you need to be afraid of

1734
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:55,040
you know let's say this person is

1735
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:56,960
involved with a uh

1736
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:58,800
i i don't know you know the queen who's

1737
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:01,040
a demonic alien in league with the

1738
01:20:05,189 --> 01:20:03,520
illuminati and are you talking about my

1739
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:05,199
friend david

1740
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:07,520
um i'm not sure who you are specifically

1741
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,040
referring to david ike oh dave oh

1742
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:12,880
okay i'm sure david's a nice guy and i

1743
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,080
know he's probably he's a friend he's a

1744
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:16,080
terrific guy and he's an honest guy and

1745
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:17,360
he got

1746
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:20,239
suborn down the wrong canyon

1747
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:22,480
it's very clear what was done to david

1748
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,679
now david has matured he's grown beyond

1749
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,239
demonic queens and all that nonsense

1750
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:30,320
but remember there are meta messages

1751
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:31,440
beneath

1752
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:33,679
what people take literally

1753
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,239
if you just stand back and you don't

1754
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:38,480
you don't uh take david literally that

1755
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:41,040
they're shape-shifting aliens amongst us

1756
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:43,679
but you do think about the idea how

1757
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:47,520
would family control their bad cousins

1758
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:50,320
on a planet that are out of control

1759
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:52,159
to basically tip the scale one way or

1760
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:53,520
the other to keep

1761
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:56,400
these rabid beings contained to where

1762
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,520
they don't do

1763
01:21:02,550 --> 01:20:59,679
damage to the rest of the family

1764
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:02,560
you begin to look beneath the surface of

1765
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,000
david ike's ideas to where there is a

1766
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:08,880
potential extraterrestrial influence

1767
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,080
or policy or you know just look at any

1768
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,120
star trek episode look at you know kirk

1769
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:17,600
and and spock trying to solve some

1770
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:20,320
colony planet problem

1771
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:22,320
within the prime directive

1772
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:24,800
how do you not let a culture that is

1773
01:21:28,630 --> 01:21:26,000
definitely

1774
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:28,640
not ready for prime time out of the

1775
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:30,880
playpen out of the cradle without it

1776
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:33,600
destroying itself but if you let them

1777
01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:35,679
know that you exist they will destroy

1778
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:38,000
themselves so i mean

1779
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,880
this ike has raised fascinating issues

1780
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:42,400
that are light years beyond the

1781
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:45,360
simplistic the queen turns into a

1782
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:51,830
and when we're dealing with hob like the

1783
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:54,239
idea of hobgoblins or those

1784
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:56,159
fanta some of the ideas can be quite

1785
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:57,600
fantastical

1786
01:22:02,550 --> 01:21:59,920
and it makes it very hard to believe for

1787
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,560
anybody who says okay show me the proof

1788
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,320
show me

1789
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,239
you know something that is beyond just

1790
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:08,400
speculation and uh

1791
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,480
having been in either advertising or you

1792
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:14,800
know graphic design or

1793
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:17,280
developing broadcasting shorts or even

1794
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:19,360
just simply selling big screen tvs you

1795
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:21,840
know plasmas and lcds for my entire

1796
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:22,960
adult life

1797
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:25,840
you get a clear understanding of how

1798
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,239
these types of technologies work so when

1799
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,239
somebody says okay this is somebody ship

1800
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:32,080
shifting or you know shape-shifting into

1801
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:33,760
an alien and i can look at that and say

1802
01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:35,280
no i've seen that exact same thing

1803
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:37,920
before on a pre-recorded either whether

1804
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,000
it's three you know cg

1805
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:42,320
uh developed whether it is you know just

1806
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:43,840
a regular broadcast and it all comes

1807
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:45,520
down oh there's no possible way you'd

1808
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:47,280
ever have photographic proof of this

1809
01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:49,440
because now with cgi you can manipulate

1810
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:50,840
any

1811
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:53,440
reality and some of the other sites out

1812
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,280
there spreading disinformation will do

1813
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,360
that as well and it's it of course for

1814
01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:59,120
people it's called it's called clicks

1815
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:01,040
for bucks yeah basically

1816
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:01,920
and

1817
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:03,520
we on the show we don't you know we

1818
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,960
don't do that we're we are listener

1819
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,560
supported 100

1820
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:08,159
uh and we don't deal with sponsors

1821
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,520
specifically because

1822
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:11,360
the moment you take that money

1823
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:12,880
the moment that they can control you and

1824
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:14,800
the message and i don't want to i want

1825
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:16,159
to make sure i wouldn't say that you

1826
01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:17,760
have to pick your sponsors carefully

1827
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:19,840
true enough like like in the in the

1828
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,000
olden days of radio which i do a lot of

1829
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:24,159
reminiscing because remember when you

1830
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:25,920
really technically look at my radio

1831
01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:28,560
career it spans half a century

1832
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:31,040
the first show i did for dark matter was

1833
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:32,560
a special

1834
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:36,239
a six hour special on the pluto flyby of

1835
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:37,840
new horizons

1836
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:42,159
on the um 15th of july of 2015

1837
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:44,320
which was a week before we were actually

1838
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:46,080
scheduled to go on the air

1839
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:47,520
following arts first show which was on

1840
01:23:52,229 --> 01:23:49,600
the 20th 21st

1841
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:52,239
so on that special i was able to find

1842
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:53,600
and play

1843
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,080
recordings done at the time

1844
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:58,480
50 years earlier

1845
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:01,280
when i was 23

1846
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:02,719
i someone's feverishly doing a

1847
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:05,600
calculation i can hear the keys typing

1848
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:06,800
um

1849
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:08,080
and i was

1850
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:09,520
at the museum in springfield

1851
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:12,159
massachusetts i was curator of astronomy

1852
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:13,600
and space science

1853
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,080
i was trying to influence nasa even then

1854
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:18,400
i was a burr under the saddle blanket

1855
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,280
that's a nice way of putting what i was

1856
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:23,520
and i got hooked up with this local nbc

1857
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:25,600
affiliate in hartford south of

1858
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:29,679
springfield wtic in hartford connecticut

1859
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:31,120
and we did

1860
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:32,000
a

1861
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,360
hour

1862
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:53,840
because nasa did this

1863
01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:55,840
you know ritually as we've proven over

1864
01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:58,239
and over again they are working on a

1865
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:01,120
ritual clock a ritual calendar for

1866
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:04,719
launches and flybys and landings etc etc

1867
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:06,719
so it was no surprise to me

1868
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,320
that we went to mars first in 1965 on

1869
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:12,560
the night of july 14th and we go to

1870
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:15,520
pluto on july 14th of

1871
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:17,920
night of 2015

1872
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:21,440
exactly 50 years almost to the hour

1873
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:22,320
later

1874
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:23,840
because 50 is important in their

1875
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:25,199
mythology

1876
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,600
and the two planets are connected

1877
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:29,199
mythologically

1878
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:31,040
mars and pluto

1879
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:32,719
and pluto is a planet that's a whole

1880
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:35,920
other discussion etc etc so i've been in

1881
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,159
this game radio game

1882
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,560
really for 50 years

1883
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:42,560
but two years ago art kind of conned me

1884
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:43,840
back into it

1885
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:45,440
and i've been experimenting with a whole

1886
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:47,760
bunch of things including

1887
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:49,920
we've kind of fashioned the other side

1888
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,400
of midnight like the old long john nebel

1889
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:55,199
show out of wor in new york

1890
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,159
which was on 50 years ago when i was

1891
01:26:02,149 --> 01:26:00,320
doing my stuff with mars

1892
01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:02,159
and the long john neville show had an

1893
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:03,920
incredible theme

1894
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:06,880
which we have appropriated as the theme

1895
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,159
for the other side of midnight so for no

1896
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:12,719
other reason you might want to tune in

1897
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,239
we're on saturday nights and sunday

1898
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,239
nights on weekends only now because we

1899
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:18,639
got to finish this damn book and i can't

1900
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:20,719
do it five nights a week and do the book

1901
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,480
and do the research and all the other

1902
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:24,880
stuff so we had to cut back so we're

1903
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,440
only live now two nights a week weekend

1904
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:29,360
saturday and sunday so if you want to

1905
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:31,360
hear what we're going to talk about and

1906
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:32,880
who we have and

1907
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:34,960
kind of an unusual perspective on

1908
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:36,400
everything that's going on and believe

1909
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:38,400
that there's a lot going on

1910
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:40,960
not just in physics not just in ufology

1911
01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:43,840
not just in ep affairs but in politics

1912
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:47,679
in science in music in film in in

1913
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:49,280
consciousness

1914
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:51,679
animal husbandry we we cover the

1915
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:52,880
waterfront

1916
01:26:57,270 --> 01:26:55,280
and we do it you know twice twice on a

1917
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:57,280
weekend saturday and sunday the show

1918
01:27:02,709 --> 01:26:59,760
begins at nine o'clock pacific and ends

1919
01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:02,719
at midnight pacific time so set your

1920
01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:05,360
calendars and talks accordingly and tune

1921
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:07,679
in we you can get us on talk stream live

1922
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:08,960
you can get us

1923
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:10,960
on certain live affiliates around the

1924
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:15,440
country uh koiq in las vegas wxme and

1925
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,400
maine

1926
01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:18,880
wbcq up near the canadian border that's

1927
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:20,159
the shortwave

1928
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:20,960
uh

1929
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:24,159
broadcast which is 50 000 watts all over

1930
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:25,760
the world broadcast

1931
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,800
and of course we're all over the

1932
01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:29,040
internet we're consistently chris every

1933
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,800
night when we're up against george on

1934
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:33,040
the weekends we're number two

1935
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:34,800
and we were on during weekdays we're

1936
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:35,920
number two

1937
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:37,679
which was interesting because he has 600

1938
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:40,400
affiliates and we had like two or three

1939
01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:42,159
and we were all in fact couple of nights

1940
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:44,239
i beat him i was number one and then he

1941
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:46,080
realized it and they changed their

1942
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:48,719
affiliate program and so we haven't been

1943
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,239
number one for

1944
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:51,920
like a year two years something like

1945
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,040
that but we were briefly number one

1946
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,960
which demonstrates that people want to

1947
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:57,840
hear

1948
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:01,600
our brand of 1950s open-ended

1949
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:03,679
conversation about

1950
01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:08,629
and that's kind of what we do here

1951
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:10,719
except for me which is why i'm on your

1952
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:12,800
show and i much appreciate that so let's

1953
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,800
get back get forget process time time to

1954
01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:16,080
process let's talk about something

1955
01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:18,320
substantive okay now why i want

1956
01:28:22,709 --> 01:28:20,639
disclosure okay well disclosure and this

1957
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,719
is kind of the first thing and it's not

1958
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,880
just about ufos and et disclosure is

1959
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:25,920
everything

1960
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:26,880
what we're talking about i mean you

1961
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,560
realize chris this is the apocalypse

1962
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:30,960
this is the classic latin apocalypse

1963
01:28:33,830 --> 01:28:32,480
which did not mean

1964
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,840
disaster

1965
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:35,440
except to certain people

1966
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:36,800
excuse me

1967
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:39,280
it meant unveiling it meant discovery it

1968
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:42,159
meant truth it meant epiphany it meant

1969
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,159
oh my god so that's what's really been

1970
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:46,320
going on

1971
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,639
we're in the middle of that right now

1972
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:50,800
what

1973
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:53,920
if we're if we talk

1974
01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:56,320
more exotic technologies or or secret

1975
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,480
space program um that's always been a

1976
01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:00,239
big interest of mine

1977
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:02,159
and

1978
01:29:05,669 --> 01:29:04,080
the i had a girlfriend many many many

1979
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:05,679
many many years ago i should say that

1980
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:07,280
many years ago she's not listening so i

1981
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:08,880
can say that

1982
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:11,440
and um you know when you meet people you

1983
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:13,520
know you kind of their backstory and all

1984
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,400
that

1985
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:16,880
and she was just this non-pre-possessing

1986
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:19,679
kind of beautiful

1987
01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:21,840
individual that didn't have a lot of

1988
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:22,960
friends and

1989
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:24,880
when high school ended

1990
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:28,480
she was magically invited to go to the

1991
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:31,040
uh graduation night party

1992
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,199
after graduation day and because they

1993
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:34,800
were down near the southern maryland

1994
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:36,639
shore they did it on the beach they had

1995
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:39,280
like a beach luau with bonfires and all

1996
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:40,880
that

1997
01:29:45,189 --> 01:29:43,600
and it was i i don't think i remember

1998
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:45,199
the exact date

1999
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:47,440
but it was sometime well it had to be in

2000
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:48,800
the spring because that's when school

2001
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:50,400
would end

2002
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:52,320
so they're all lying there on the beach

2003
01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:53,840
and you know there's music and there's

2004
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:56,320
dancing and there's shadows and there's

2005
01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:57,600
the usual stuff that happens with high

2006
01:30:02,390 --> 01:29:59,360
school kids

2007
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:02,400
and then they start seeing one by one a

2008
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:04,239
bright star

2009
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:06,480
coming in from the east

2010
01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:08,080
uh out over the ocean out of the

2011
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:09,360
atlantic ocean

2012
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:12,320
it's night you know bonfires night beach

2013
01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:13,920
surf

2014
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:15,679
and the star gets bigger and bigger and

2015
01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:18,159
brighter and brighter and then it

2016
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:20,880
according to her testimony

2017
01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,040
years afterwards of course

2018
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:26,159
it gets big enough to be seen

2019
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:30,159
and it's a disc shaped saucer

2020
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:32,719
and it gets closer and closer and closer

2021
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:35,280
and finally it comes right up to the

2022
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:36,800
water's edge where the beach and the

2023
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:38,480
ocean begin

2024
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:41,520
and it quietly settles down on three

2025
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:44,239
tripod legs this is a big saucer like 30

2026
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:46,639
40 feet across

2027
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:50,080
and then like out of a scene out of um

2028
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:51,920
um

2029
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:55,360
what's that famous billy wilder film

2030
01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:58,480
um the day the earth stood still

2031
01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:01,120
a portion of the saucer underneath

2032
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:02,719
lowers down

2033
01:31:05,830 --> 01:31:04,239
also like the saucer and forbidden

2034
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,840
planet

2035
01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,920
and there's a there's a stairway and a

2036
01:31:11,669 --> 01:31:08,960
ramp

2037
01:31:13,750 --> 01:31:11,679
and it comes down on the sand with the

2038
01:31:15,910 --> 01:31:13,760
craft sitting kind of half in the ocean

2039
01:31:17,669 --> 01:31:15,920
half out with the surf coming in and out

2040
01:31:19,750 --> 01:31:17,679
around it

2041
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:19,760
with this glowing

2042
01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:21,360
disc at night and lights from the

2043
01:31:25,110 --> 01:31:23,600
interior and all that and then they see

2044
01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:25,120
the shadow

2045
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:26,159
appear

2046
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:28,480
at the head of the stairs

2047
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:31,920
and it slowly walks down the stairway

2048
01:31:34,870 --> 01:31:33,760
and she's telling me

2049
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:34,880
and

2050
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:40,480
white suit

2051
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:42,880
like an astronaut suit

2052
01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:47,280
like an apollo astronaut suit

2053
01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:48,719
and it was like

2054
01:31:52,629 --> 01:31:50,719
ding ding ding ding ding

2055
01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:52,639
because obviously that was a couple of

2056
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:54,560
space jocks from the secret space

2057
01:31:57,990 --> 01:31:55,600
program

2058
01:31:59,750 --> 01:31:58,000
showing off to a whole bunch of kids on

2059
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,760
a beach at night

2060
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:01,600
because they're hot jocks and they think

2061
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:03,520
they're the best things in sliced bread

2062
01:32:08,629 --> 01:32:06,480
and they couldn't avoid showing off

2063
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:08,639
and then she said that the guy walked

2064
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:11,520
back up the ramp ramp closed ship takes

2065
01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:15,040
off and goes up into the night toward

2066
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,070
cool

2067
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:22,639
so to me that was my because there was

2068
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:26,400
no possible reason a she could lie b

2069
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:28,239
would have enough knowledge to be able

2070
01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:29,360
to lie

2071
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:31,600
and see instead of having real aliens

2072
01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:32,880
come out of the ship

2073
01:32:37,070 --> 01:32:36,080
she had a guy in an apollo spacesuit

2074
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:37,080
how

2075
01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:40,159
non-imaginative is that

2076
01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:42,080
so in terms of ranking her as a witness

2077
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:43,760
i was i thought it was you know i said

2078
01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:45,040
can we go and find some of the other

2079
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:46,080
kids

2080
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:48,320
and you know it was a long time ago and

2081
01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:49,520
people drifted away and it would have

2082
01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:52,159
been a huge job and frankly

2083
01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:54,239
events have moved on to where we don't

2084
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:55,679
have to prove there's a secret space

2085
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:57,679
program it's the evidence is all around

2086
01:33:00,790 --> 01:32:58,800
us

2087
01:33:01,910 --> 01:33:00,800
the question is what's its relationship

2088
01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:01,920
to the

2089
01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:04,159
space program that we see

2090
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:06,000
who gets the short straw

2091
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:08,480
who gets to fly in the you know never

2092
01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:10,320
crashing spaceships versus who gets to

2093
01:33:16,229 --> 01:33:12,800
fly in the clunky saturn vibes and

2094
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:16,239
shuttles that tend to uh ruin you know

2095
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:23,430
i think it comes down to believability

2096
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:26,239
and the ability to

2097
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:28,000
what do you mean believability well some

2098
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:29,920
somebody who can keep a secret and then

2099
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:34,000
say i don't know this and actually not

2100
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:38,080
convey that they're lying um if i were

2101
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:40,080
somebody who and i'm not but if i were

2102
01:33:43,189 --> 01:33:41,520
somebody are you talking about the

2103
01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:43,199
astronaut core the guys that actually

2104
01:33:47,189 --> 01:33:45,040
have to fly the clunky stuff as opposed

2105
01:33:48,950 --> 01:33:47,199
to the cool stuff well the cool stuff uh

2106
01:33:50,629 --> 01:33:48,960
like again the cool stuff themselves

2107
01:33:52,310 --> 01:33:50,639
we're talking like groups like solar

2108
01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:52,320
warden for instance which is a code name

2109
01:33:55,910 --> 01:33:53,920
yeah yeah that's one code name because

2110
01:33:58,629 --> 01:33:55,920
i've never believed that because

2111
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,639
anyway but code names can come but the

2112
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,719
existence of a private space fleet

2113
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:02,880
actually i think there are two

2114
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:05,440
i think there's ours meaning

2115
01:34:09,590 --> 01:34:07,520
human humans on earth

2116
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:09,600
and it's got to be

2117
01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:11,440
got to be some kind of consortium

2118
01:34:15,430 --> 01:34:13,600
involving all the major nations it can't

2119
01:34:18,310 --> 01:34:15,440
just be the us

2120
01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:18,320
for putin wouldn't stand for it okay and

2121
01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:20,719
again the geopolitics we see if this

2122
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,760
model is correct is is totally fake

2123
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:25,199
none of it's real

2124
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:27,520
you know kim jong-un is threatening us

2125
01:34:32,310 --> 01:34:28,960
with ballistic missiles because that's

2126
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:32,320
his job in the play in the script to be

2127
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:33,760
a diversion

2128
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:36,560
so no one says wait a minute in the 21st

2129
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,000
century we have to worry about ballistic

2130
01:34:42,070 --> 01:34:40,639
missiles of course not

2131
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:42,080
we can screw with their inertial

2132
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:43,600
guidance systems and they'll never land

2133
01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:45,600
where you want because hyperdimensional

2134
01:34:50,390 --> 01:34:47,840
torsion field physics is real

2135
01:34:53,110 --> 01:34:50,400
it generates measurable waves you can

2136
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:53,120
use those waves as a weapon to make any

2137
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:55,360
conventional newtonian based missile go

2138
01:35:02,470 --> 01:34:56,560
off course and never get where it's

2139
01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:04,870
and this is what i've been trying to say

2140
01:35:08,229 --> 01:35:06,320
that with

2141
01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:08,239
the world the way that it is and if

2142
01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:10,159
anybody tells me

2143
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:12,639
we are being made to believe it is the

2144
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:14,719
way that the

2145
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:16,400
chris that everything we see out there

2146
01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:18,560
is fake well i'm talking about well the

2147
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:21,920
way that it is in terms of

2148
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:23,440
the big lie

2149
01:35:27,430 --> 01:35:26,239
it does not make any sense and i i can

2150
01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:27,440
understand how people can see this

2151
01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:28,880
differently

2152
01:35:34,149 --> 01:35:29,679
the

2153
01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:34,159
propagated and a lot of it is fear is

2154
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:37,199
that there is a depopulation

2155
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,280
uh like there's a depopulation program

2156
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:41,520
it is a possibility there is one

2157
01:35:44,550 --> 01:35:42,400
but

2158
01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:44,560
it doesn't make any sense

2159
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:47,199
for large corporations to be in cahoots

2160
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:49,440
with one another to kill off the base of

2161
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:51,760
their revenue it does not

2162
01:35:57,189 --> 01:35:54,960
make any sense for governments to cut

2163
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:57,199
off their tax revenue if it just comes

2164
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:58,800
down to survival

2165
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:00,639
then they could do that very easily with

2166
01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:02,080
all the weapons that are available to me

2167
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:04,639
that isn't logical although

2168
01:36:08,070 --> 01:36:07,040
i can note

2169
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,080
that

2170
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:10,080
if there is such a thing and i'm not

2171
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:11,360
saying that there is

2172
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:14,320
but

2173
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:15,760
if there is

2174
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:18,080
it would stand to reason to me that it

2175
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:19,679
is due to

2176
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:24,480
some outside force that could possibly

2177
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:26,560
say okay if

2178
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:27,920
we're going to go and take this planet's

2179
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,400
resources again i can't see that as a

2180
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:32,320
possibility because there are tons of

2181
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:34,159
resources out there in the solar system

2182
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:36,400
hanging around without six people

2183
01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:38,719
chris even it's even worse or better

2184
01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:41,360
actually much better than that

2185
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:43,920
you've heard of the so-called kardashev

2186
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:46,560
scale of interstellar civilizations

2187
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:47,840
right

2188
01:36:52,229 --> 01:36:50,480
type one type two type three oh yes

2189
01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:52,239
and that according to sagan we're about

2190
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:53,679
a point seven

2191
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:55,600
we're not even at the type one level yet

2192
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,400
which

2193
01:37:01,990 --> 01:36:58,320
controls the energy of a planetary

2194
01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:02,000
system of this planet yes

2195
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:04,320
what no one has factored in and the

2196
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:06,080
cartership scale was based solely on

2197
01:37:11,590 --> 01:37:07,840
energy not on any other

2198
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:11,600
technological capabilities just energy

2199
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:14,159
what was what was never factored in is

2200
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:17,440
any hyper dimensional components

2201
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:18,800
in other words

2202
01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:21,679
a type 1 controls all the

2203
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:25,199
fossil fuels and natural gas and solar

2204
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:29,280
energy hitting one planet right

2205
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:31,440
a type 2 civilization

2206
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:32,960
like you know

2207
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:35,360
can create a dyson sphere to harness the

2208
01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:38,080
energy or the solar energy of its entire

2209
01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:40,239
star and in other words that was their

2210
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:43,520
thinking back in the 1960s very linear

2211
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:45,520
very newtonian physics very

2212
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:48,159
non-hyperdimensional

2213
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:50,480
you enter the realm of experimental

2214
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:52,560
verification a lot of the russian

2215
01:37:57,189 --> 01:37:54,800
scientists kozarev

2216
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:57,199
and our work and a bunch of recently

2217
01:38:01,830 --> 01:37:59,760
declassified black ops stuff on this

2218
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:01,840
side of the iron curtain and you realize

2219
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,639
that hyperdimensional physics is real

2220
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:07,119
and torsion field technologies were used

2221
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:10,000
to bring down the world trade towers it

2222
01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:12,719
wasn't many nukes it wasn't explosives

2223
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:15,920
it wasn't thermite it was pure torsion

2224
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:18,960
field weaponry that justified and

2225
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,000
reduced those buildings to dust

2226
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,239
megatons of dust you're not the first

2227
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:26,080
person to tell me this

2228
01:38:29,990 --> 01:38:28,400
i'm glad i'm not because you know which

2229
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:30,000
we when few of us have been working on

2230
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:31,679
this for quite a while it's nice that

2231
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:33,760
it's percolated out there

2232
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:36,400
if that technology was used

2233
01:38:42,550 --> 01:38:39,600
it means that you go from a type one

2234
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,560
to a type three which is you know in

2235
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:44,639
kardashev scale could control the

2236
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:48,000
energies of a galaxy of energy four to

2237
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:49,600
five hundred

2238
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:51,840
billion stars

2239
01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:53,119
overnight

2240
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:55,760
like with the flip of a switch

2241
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:57,040
to say nothing of all the other

2242
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:59,199
capabilities that come with

2243
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,119
conquering multiple dimensions which

2244
01:39:04,149 --> 01:39:02,719
include things like

2245
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:04,159
phasing matters so you pass through

2246
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:06,880
solid walls reading mines

2247
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:09,920
transporting beings miles away instantly

2248
01:39:14,229 --> 01:39:11,440
etc etc

2249
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:14,239
so we're not talking traditional 1965

2250
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,760
kardashian-scale

2251
01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:17,760
cultures we're talking

2252
01:39:22,350 --> 01:39:19,280
arthur c clarke

2253
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:22,360
any sufficiently advanced technology is

2254
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:24,400
indistinguishable from

2255
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:25,600
magic

2256
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:30,880
in the 21st century controlled by two

2257
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:33,280
subsets of the human species

2258
01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:35,119
which are probably pitted against each

2259
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:36,000
other

2260
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:37,679
one is earth

2261
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,719
post-world war ii and the governments

2262
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:43,199
with the secret space program

2263
01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:45,600
because this war is a spatial war

2264
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:47,600
remember a war in heaven

2265
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:49,280
and the other group is the so-called

2266
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:50,480
breakaways

2267
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:53,119
the nazis who developed this technology

2268
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,040
or had it given to them

2269
01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:56,639
and the odds are it probably was given

2270
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:57,520
to them

2271
01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:59,199
because they were picked as the favorite

2272
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:01,360
stalking horse to win earth

2273
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:03,520
for guys out there that we don't really

2274
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,280
want to mess with very very bad cousins

2275
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,360
and so you have these two opposing camps

2276
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:11,199
you have the real

2277
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:13,040
earth technology pitted against the

2278
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:15,199
breakaway civilization technology for

2279
01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:17,520
control not just of the earth but of the

2280
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:20,800
entire solar system our entire history

2281
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,760
our entire identity is who we are as

2282
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:25,119
humans

2283
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:27,199
going all the way back to

2284
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:29,199
who came here originally

2285
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:31,280
meddled in this nursery changed

2286
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:33,040
everything around and created the

2287
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:38,000
context so homo sapiens could be born

2288
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:40,000
i actually just had um

2289
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:41,520
it happens every now and again but i

2290
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,639
while you were saying that i actually

2291
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:44,320
just had my my studios start to fall

2292
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:46,880
apart my my soundproof walls have come

2293
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:48,239
come undone

2294
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:49,520
i want to know

2295
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,159
how this relates to

2296
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:54,239
mars and the moon and i'm going to

2297
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:55,760
pre-face this with

2298
01:40:57,990 --> 01:40:56,560
and

2299
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:58,000
my mother is

2300
01:41:02,070 --> 01:41:00,639
a very big fan and uh truth be told i

2301
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,080
said i was interviewing richard c

2302
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:03,440
hoagland on the show tonight and she

2303
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:06,000
looked at me and went what holy [\h__\h] and

2304
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:07,840
my mom my mother doesn't swear very much

2305
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:10,960
did your mother say that shame on her

2306
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:13,199
well she may have but she she tends to

2307
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:16,320
to to um react fairly well and mom if

2308
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:17,600
you're out there thank you very much for

2309
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:19,040
watching your awesome lovely dad love

2310
01:41:22,870 --> 01:41:21,679
you to death um

2311
01:41:24,310 --> 01:41:22,880
and i'm not sure where she got the

2312
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:24,320
information from

2313
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,480
and it's possible it was from one of the

2314
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:28,000
many books that she read that she made

2315
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:29,840
me read when i was five

2316
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:32,880
the idea of

2317
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,520
an ancient war in the solar system and

2318
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:37,520
exactly and there was again as we had

2319
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:40,159
mentioned the possibility of uh whether

2320
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,600
there were aliens that were here whether

2321
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:43,760
it was humans that were here a long time

2322
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,880
ago well my model and again we're we're

2323
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:48,960
working through the data to to verify

2324
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:51,040
the model but my model is

2325
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:52,960
that there was an ancient war in heaven

2326
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:54,800
it's in the bible it's listed as the war

2327
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:56,239
in heaven

2328
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:57,840
only problem is it's the wrong end of

2329
01:42:01,830 --> 01:41:58,880
the book

2330
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:01,840
it should be in the beginning

2331
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:04,320
right after genesis uh-huh

2332
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:08,159
but it's put in the end in revelation

2333
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,199
so and

2334
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:11,760
that may be deliberate or it may be just

2335
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:13,280
you know it's hard to reconstruct

2336
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:16,400
history when it's long long gone and all

2337
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:17,520
you've got are

2338
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:19,520
you know oral legends to try to

2339
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:22,719
reconstruct who the hell you really are

2340
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:24,639
but if that's true then the question is

2341
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:25,760
well

2342
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:27,360
what happened before

2343
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:28,960
genesis if you read genesis very

2344
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:31,360
carefully there are two

2345
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:32,880
creations

2346
01:42:37,109 --> 01:42:34,719
in genesis

2347
01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:37,119
there's the big one you know everything

2348
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:38,320
existence

2349
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,239
then there's another one

2350
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:42,800
separated by the unknown amount of time

2351
01:42:46,910 --> 01:42:45,520
because what does god tell man he tells

2352
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:46,920
men to

2353
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:50,480
replenish the earth

2354
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:52,080
replenish

2355
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:53,600
that means build it up from what it used

2356
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:55,040
to be

2357
01:42:59,910 --> 01:42:57,280
after it was destroyed

2358
01:43:02,149 --> 01:42:59,920
that implies a catastrophe that implies

2359
01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:02,159
a war so that's the western tradition

2360
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:04,800
you know the judeo-christian bible

2361
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:06,719
you look to the ancient egyptians what

2362
01:43:10,709 --> 01:43:08,080
do they talk to

2363
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:10,719
they talk about the first time

2364
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,440
there's a group a committee you know of

2365
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:15,040
a secret society whatever you want to

2366
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:17,760
call it called the shem sue [\h__\h]

2367
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,080
the followers of horus yes

2368
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:22,560
that goes back tens of thousands of

2369
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:24,480
years their job

2370
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:27,040
is to replenish the earth to make the

2371
01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:28,400
first time

2372
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:29,760
come again

2373
01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:31,840
weren't the the the the the central

2374
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:33,760
[\h__\h] the one by the way before i lose

2375
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:35,199
my train of thought

2376
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:37,600
doesn't this kind of ring parallel to

2377
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,760
president donald j trump

2378
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:42,000
make america great

2379
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:43,840
again

2380
01:43:48,470 --> 01:43:45,679
i thought america was always great it's

2381
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,480
uh me too i live here

2382
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:50,880
but the 1950s

2383
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:52,719
19.5

2384
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:56,480
is when things went off the rails

2385
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:57,920
in our model now this is going to go

2386
01:44:02,229 --> 01:43:59,760
very far afield from

2387
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:02,239
aliens and mars and the moon and stuff

2388
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:03,760
in the solar system and kardashev

2389
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:05,520
civilizations

2390
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,719
the very fabric of reality

2391
01:44:12,229 --> 01:44:10,800
kind of like um

2392
01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:12,239
those couple of movies on the

2393
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:14,480
philadelphia experiment

2394
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:17,199
appeared to take a fork

2395
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:19,520
appeared to take a wrong turn

2396
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,360
in the 1950s

2397
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:23,840
it's like the future we're now living is

2398
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,480
not the future we should have ever lived

2399
01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:28,080
we're in the wrong future we're in the

2400
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:29,520
wrong

2401
01:44:38,950 --> 01:44:34,960
and maybe the art form is how do we get

2402
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:38,960
back to the original timeline where this

2403
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:41,040
all works

2404
01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:42,960
because it ain't working now

2405
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:44,239
i mean those that are forecasting

2406
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,800
catastrophe they're absolutely right

2407
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:48,320
if we don't change if we don't have a

2408
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:49,920
game changer we don't do something

2409
01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:52,400
radically radically radically different

2410
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:55,119
as i felt for 30 years the human race is

2411
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:56,239
doomed

2412
01:45:00,390 --> 01:44:58,159
and you see various authority figures

2413
01:45:01,430 --> 01:45:00,400
pop up from time to time like stephen

2414
01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:01,440
hawking

2415
01:45:05,270 --> 01:45:03,440
talking about how unless we get off

2416
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:05,280
earth you know the human race has about

2417
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:07,040
another 100 years

2418
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:09,119
so this is not original we've got to get

2419
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,719
as joseph farrell

2420
01:45:14,470 --> 01:45:12,159
and i talk about all the time we have to

2421
01:45:16,310 --> 01:45:14,480
go from a closed system in other words

2422
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:16,320
we have to go from being an almost type

2423
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:17,119
one

2424
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:21,280
to a type two and we have to do it

2425
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:22,560
overnight

2426
01:45:29,270 --> 01:45:25,280
and the art form is can we do it without

2427
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:29,280
destroying ourselves in the process

2428
01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:31,199
are we mature enough

2429
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:34,639
to handle the extraordinary awesome

2430
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:35,600
power

2431
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:39,280
to literally recreate reality

2432
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:40,960
of a type 2 civilization

2433
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:43,920
hyperdimensional torsion field physics

2434
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:46,560
and knowledge base

2435
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:48,880
i think that if you were talking about

2436
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:50,960
going from a type 1 to a type 2 to a

2437
01:45:53,430 --> 01:45:52,239
type 3

2438
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:53,440
it would be

2439
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:55,840
very difficult to do that

2440
01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:57,040
the reason being there are so many

2441
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:59,520
competing uh interests in on the world

2442
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:01,119
right now

2443
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:02,480
when you say competing remember what's

2444
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:04,560
the primary reason we've compete on with

2445
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:06,400
each other on earth what's the biggest

2446
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:08,560
driver of competition resources

2447
01:46:11,109 --> 01:46:09,679
obviously

2448
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:11,119
exactly

2449
01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:12,800
torsion field hyperdimensional physics

2450
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:14,560
allows you to create

2451
01:46:19,109 --> 01:46:16,880
matter from space

2452
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:19,119
you can create any quantity of any

2453
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:22,080
matter in any form or color variety

2454
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:23,440
that you want does this sound a bit

2455
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:26,719
familiar it's it's the lead lines from

2456
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:29,920
uh dr forbius in forbidden planet which

2457
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:32,400
came out in 1956.

2458
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:34,000
i've got a whole decoding of forbidden

2459
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:36,080
planet which basically is a message to

2460
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:38,800
the in crowd about this this jump

2461
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:42,960
between a type not one and a type two

2462
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:44,560
and all the responsibilities that go

2463
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:45,679
with it

2464
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:46,719
everybody should go out and see that

2465
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:48,400
movie again so when i come out with this

2466
01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:49,199
uh

2467
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:52,639
be enough people out there seen the

2468
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:54,960
movie they know what i'm talking about

2469
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:57,199
but yeah we're we're poison we're poised

2470
01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:59,520
on the fulcrum chris to everything we've

2471
01:47:04,550 --> 01:47:02,000
ever wanted and imagined

2472
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,560
and if there's an up there's also a down

2473
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:06,880
the down is that we're not adult enough

2474
01:47:12,310 --> 01:47:09,760
to handle it and we'll wind up using

2475
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:12,320
these technologies to basically snuff

2476
01:47:16,310 --> 01:47:14,400
ourselves out like a candle

2477
01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:16,320
i happen to think we're made of sterner

2478
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:18,080
stuff i think part of what's happening

2479
01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:20,960
now politically is a test

2480
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:23,360
however architected it is however

2481
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:26,400
contrived to see who the hell are

2482
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:28,880
americans really

2483
01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:30,320
are they going to be

2484
01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:31,920
you know forthright and stick with their

2485
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:33,199
principles

2486
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:35,199
with their morals with their knowledge

2487
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:38,000
base with their maturity with their

2488
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:40,480
ability to actually transcend

2489
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:42,239
petty pettiness

2490
01:47:46,709 --> 01:47:44,480
or are they going to consult you know

2491
01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:46,719
basically consign themselves to being

2492
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:49,119
fans following an idiot over the edge of

2493
01:47:52,149 --> 01:47:50,880
the cliff

2494
01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:52,159
and so far

2495
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:53,360
we're winning

2496
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:55,760
so far we here in the states have have

2497
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:57,840
discovered there's more to us than we

2498
01:48:02,149 --> 01:48:00,320
thought we were and we're actually

2499
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:02,159
we're we're in if this is a long game

2500
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:04,080
we're in the eighth inning maybe and

2501
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:05,440
we're winning

2502
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:07,440
because it turns out we're most of us

2503
01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:09,679
who we thought we were

2504
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:11,199
unfortunately there's a lot of us that

2505
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:16,790
i respect the fact

2506
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:18,560
that the ability to wonder and the

2507
01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:20,159
ability to dream

2508
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:23,440
and work very hard for a future has

2509
01:48:27,990 --> 01:48:25,840
always been an indicative part of

2510
01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:28,000
american culture and american psyche

2511
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:30,239
um unfortunately we are we are the

2512
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:31,360
frontier

2513
01:48:36,070 --> 01:48:34,080
we are yes the place that invents the

2514
01:48:37,830 --> 01:48:36,080
future in california farthest west is

2515
01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:37,840
the place that invents the future the

2516
01:48:43,430 --> 01:48:40,560
best so we're we're the first culture on

2517
01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:43,440
the planet in modern times dedicated to

2518
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,840
the concept of

2519
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:46,480
change

2520
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:48,800
for most of history for most of time

2521
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:51,440
change has been threatening to people

2522
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:53,920
why because if you were on top the only

2523
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:55,920
change was you went down to the bottom

2524
01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:57,760
if you were on the bottom there was no

2525
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,400
change so change was threatening

2526
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:02,800
but we have embraced change

2527
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,119
and now someone's trying to turn us

2528
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,440
backwards as opposed to forward i mean

2529
01:49:11,990 --> 01:49:09,920
this whole transgender nonsense came out

2530
01:49:15,109 --> 01:49:12,000
of the blue i think is another

2531
01:49:17,590 --> 01:49:15,119
deliberate test we are being tested at

2532
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:17,600
every level and then the question is is

2533
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:20,320
it all a grand deception to keep us from

2534
01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:22,159
looking at the real change which is

2535
01:49:27,510 --> 01:49:24,639
coming at warp 9 which is the

2536
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:27,520
confrontation of the body politic with

2537
01:49:32,870 --> 01:49:30,639
the reality that we are not alone we are

2538
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,880
part of something so much grander and we

2539
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:34,800
have an awful lot to live up to and to

2540
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:37,440
get over before we can join a community

2541
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:41,119
of interplanetary civilization a la star

2542
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:43,760
trek and the federation and this is the

2543
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:45,679
whole idea of the prime directive as a

2544
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:48,800
concept with with civilizations the idea

2545
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:51,840
that we as a species is not mature

2546
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:54,320
enough to be able to to to we can't get

2547
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,960
along with ourselves even within our own

2548
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:58,239
countries

2549
01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:00,639
to be able to go out there and not stir

2550
01:50:03,910 --> 01:50:02,320
up so much [\h__\h]

2551
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:03,920
that they're they we would have to be

2552
01:50:10,550 --> 01:50:06,880
put down as a species we are

2553
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:10,560
warlike we are argumentative we

2554
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:13,360
dream big we fight harder and you know

2555
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:14,960
if we're going to go to the moon go to

2556
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:17,199
the moon but chris the question then is

2557
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:20,480
push comes to shove is that really us or

2558
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,880
is that a minority who have seized

2559
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:24,800
control and power

2560
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:27,280
and the body politic of the planet is in

2561
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:30,480
fact not like that

2562
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:33,360
i would say that if you turn off

2563
01:50:37,590 --> 01:50:35,040
even that if you turn off cell phones

2564
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:37,600
and internet alone in the united states

2565
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:39,119
watch and see how fast it goes towards

2566
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:40,400
mad max

2567
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:42,000
meets well yeah because we're totally

2568
01:50:47,189 --> 01:50:45,360
dependent exactly see in in any culture

2569
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:47,199
that's going to happen any culture

2570
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:50,080
because survival becomes number one

2571
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:52,560
but if you guarantee survival i mean i'm

2572
01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:54,159
i'm watching interesting political

2573
01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:56,080
things going on i had a

2574
01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:58,560
friend of mine dr joseph bookman the

2575
01:51:03,590 --> 01:51:00,880
other night he's running for congress in

2576
01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:03,600
the third district in utah

2577
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:04,960
he's actually running on an

2578
01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:08,000
extraterrestrial disclosure platform

2579
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:10,719
his economics are there should be a

2580
01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:14,159
guaranteed national income

2581
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,239
he's a libertarian and he wants a

2582
01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:18,320
guaranteed national income because

2583
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:20,800
essentially he and i agree

2584
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:23,840
in the last 10 000 years the the the the

2585
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:26,719
resource base and the knowledge base and

2586
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:27,760
the uh

2587
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:30,400
information base has so expanded not

2588
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:32,560
because of individual

2589
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:34,159
you know can work any harder now than

2590
01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:36,159
they could 10 000 years ago

2591
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:38,719
but because of technology and science

2592
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:40,960
so what you're doing is you're basically

2593
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:42,159
taxing

2594
01:51:47,910 --> 01:51:45,360
productivity as opposed to people you're

2595
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:47,920
taxing technology as opposed to human

2596
01:51:53,189 --> 01:51:50,320
beings and then you're dividing that

2597
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:53,199
among those that need a base because no

2598
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:55,679
human can be human without a guaranteed

2599
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,280
bay that's what the whole health care

2600
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:58,880
debate on this country

2601
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,520
you know going now into its uh

2602
01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:03,520
20th hour i think in washington is all

2603
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:04,480
about

2604
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:06,400
i mean in the constitution we're

2605
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:08,080
guaranteed life

2606
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:11,679
liberty and the pursuit of happiness

2607
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:13,360
well what is the health care debate over

2608
01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:14,719
here all about

2609
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:16,719
it's about life

2610
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:18,880
because without health care you don't

2611
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,679
live you die

2612
01:52:25,830 --> 01:52:23,520
and we're having this incredible

2613
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:25,840
discussion as a society

2614
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:28,320
who is worthy of keeping alive and how

2615
01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:31,280
do we keep everybody in the game so they

2616
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,520
can become who they want and need to be

2617
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:37,440
in other words we're talking foundations

2618
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:39,679
we're talking floors that are not about

2619
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:42,320
taxing people working but about taxing

2620
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:45,280
knowledge and technology and science and

2621
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:47,840
infinite energy which comes of course

2622
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:50,639
from the hyper-dimensional model

2623
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:53,520
and all of this was forecast decades ago

2624
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,119
by a u s president who quietly

2625
01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:57,199
commissioned a study called the report

2626
01:53:01,750 --> 01:52:59,599
from iron mountain his name was john

2627
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:01,760
fitzgerald kennedy

2628
01:53:07,189 --> 01:53:05,520
and on the 26th of october

2629
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:07,199
of this year

2630
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:09,440
in washington chris

2631
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:12,400
the kennedy assassination papers

2632
01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:15,280
everything the intelligence agencies

2633
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:17,280
everything the supreme court everything

2634
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:19,199
the congress everything the johnson

2635
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,440
white house everything the fbi

2636
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,000
everything assembled about who was

2637
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:26,560
behind kennedy's assassination

2638
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:28,560
and who all the players were

2639
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:29,840
by law

2640
01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:33,119
must be made public

2641
01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:35,040
unless

2642
01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:37,040
the sitting president

2643
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,320
in this case donald j trump stands in

2644
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:42,560
the doorway and says

2645
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:44,480
no

2646
01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:47,440
and with that dump of data huge

2647
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:50,400
documents official source documents

2648
01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:53,520
going back 50 years

2649
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:55,760
we're going to find out a lot more about

2650
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:58,239
why kennedy was really killed which if

2651
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:00,719
you read dark mission i say was because

2652
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:02,000
of this

2653
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:04,239
kennedy was about to announce

2654
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:06,080
everything we've talked about tonight up

2655
01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:07,199
up to now

2656
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,040
and they killed him for it because he

2657
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:11,280
was trying to share it with our arch

2658
01:54:15,550 --> 01:54:14,400
enemies on the planet the soviet union

2659
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:15,560
to prevent

2660
01:54:22,709 --> 01:54:18,159
thermonuclear war from wiping out the

2661
01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:22,719
human race a la the cuban missile crisis

2662
01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:25,520
so that date mark on your calendars that

2663
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:27,840
is the disclosure date when the

2664
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:29,679
you-know-what is going to hit the

2665
01:54:37,750 --> 01:54:36,950
and if we are going to be waiting for

2666
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:37,760
this

2667
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:39,840
within the next it's only three months

2668
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:41,520
well three months three months can be a

2669
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:42,960
long time for some people i've i've got

2670
01:54:46,709 --> 01:54:44,639
much like i've got a kid on the way

2671
01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:46,719
that's going to be here

2672
01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:48,960
for 30 years chris so let's get some

2673
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:50,480
perspective here three months is not

2674
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:52,159
true it's going to take us more time

2675
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:54,080
just to get ready because nobody

2676
01:54:59,109 --> 01:54:56,400
listening to this us tonight has any

2677
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:59,119
idea of what's going to happen when that

2678
01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:00,159
goes down

2679
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:01,840
they have a clue

2680
01:55:06,709 --> 01:55:05,040
your world is going to change radically

2681
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:06,719
whether it changes radically for the

2682
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:10,400
better or for the worse is up to us

2683
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,639
that's what this whole period is about

2684
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:15,520
it sees the day carpe diem someone is

2685
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,080
trying to affect the future and in fact

2686
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:20,400
this whole future transition with fear

2687
01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:21,280
porn

2688
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:23,760
our job is not to get lost in the fear

2689
01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:26,080
but to seize the moment to make the kind

2690
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:29,840
of future we want given the certitude

2691
01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:32,080
and the official acknowledgement of

2692
01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,239
every one of these cockamamie ideas

2693
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:36,159
we've discussed tonight as being

2694
01:55:39,910 --> 01:55:38,400
absolutely real

2695
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:39,920
think of that kind of world and how

2696
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:41,840
you'll handle it and how you'll deal

2697
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:44,239
with it and operate within it and you've

2698
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:46,560
got three months to do it

2699
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:47,679
go

2700
01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:56,390
you have to get people ready that's our

2701
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:58,480
job that's part of our mission which we

2702
01:56:02,790 --> 01:56:01,199
chose to accept a long time ago

2703
01:56:04,709 --> 01:56:02,800
that's why all the programs i've done

2704
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,719
for the last two years are part of a

2705
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:06,719
database i mean if you listen to the

2706
01:56:12,790 --> 01:56:10,960
archive at club 19.5 note the number

2707
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:12,800
which you can join now between now and

2708
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:15,360
august 1 you can join for five bucks and

2709
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:17,679
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2710
01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:20,080
forever for as long as the show lasts

2711
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:22,480
and the archive lasts but after august

2712
01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:23,360
1st

2713
01:56:26,149 --> 01:56:24,639
getting ready for what's going to happen

2714
01:56:27,430 --> 01:56:26,159
in october we're raising the price to

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01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:27,440
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2716
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now what you get if you join the club is

2717
01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:31,760
you get access to an archive of shows

2718
01:56:37,030 --> 01:56:33,840
i've done for two years trying to

2719
01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:37,040
prepare people for the radical effects

2720
01:56:42,070 --> 01:56:39,920
on everything of disclosure

2721
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:42,080
not just technology not just politics

2722
01:56:48,149 --> 01:56:45,280
not just medicine but everything there's

2723
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:48,159
a database there deliberately designed

2724
01:56:52,709 --> 01:56:50,480
when art kind of said wouldn't this be a

2725
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:52,719
good idea i thought oh my god

2726
01:56:55,589 --> 01:56:53,760
more work

2727
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:55,599
but it's out there and it's available

2728
01:56:59,830 --> 01:56:57,599
for a pittance i mean five bucks is a

2729
01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,840
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2730
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that's it

2731
01:57:06,790 --> 01:57:05,280
now there's almost 20 days worth so far

2732
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:06,800
of archives

2733
01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:08,960
if you sat down tonight to listen to the

2734
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:12,000
other side of midnight from when i began

2735
01:57:15,910 --> 01:57:14,159
you'd be in in almost three weeks from

2736
01:57:17,589 --> 01:57:15,920
now still listening

2737
01:57:19,990 --> 01:57:17,599
nobody can do that

2738
01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:20,000
full-time it'll take you years to go

2739
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:21,440
through what we've got out there and

2740
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:23,360
we're adding new shows every single week

2741
01:57:28,149 --> 01:57:26,239
so this is the neatest economic

2742
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:28,159
investment you will make in this

2743
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:30,400
transition that anybody is ever going to

2744
01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:31,599
offer you

2745
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:33,679
five bucks between now and august one

2746
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:36,480
join club 19.5 go to our website the

2747
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:38,880
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2748
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:41,199
the left there's instructions for how to

2749
01:57:44,550 --> 01:57:43,280
get to the right link to join

2750
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get in while they're getting good

2751
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because what we're going to do as we go

2752
01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:48,400
through this disclosure process we're

2753
01:57:53,270 --> 01:57:50,880
going to give private briefings to the

2754
01:57:54,470 --> 01:57:53,280
club members that nobody else is gonna

2755
01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:54,480
get

2756
01:57:58,149 --> 01:57:56,320
for quite a while

2757
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:58,159
i'm just i'm just looking at the website

2758
01:58:01,109 --> 01:57:58,960
now

2759
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:01,119
uh because you can pay by paypal and

2760
01:58:07,270 --> 01:58:04,239
it's uh five dollars for each of 30 days

2761
01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:07,280
this is actually really cool and it's 16

2762
01:58:11,030 --> 01:58:09,040
cents a day

2763
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:11,040
now someone very cleverly pointed out

2764
01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:13,280
when i raised it to 9.95

2765
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:16,480
that that comes out to 33 cents per day

2766
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:17,920
and that of course is part of the whole

2767
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:19,760
hyperdimensional

2768
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:24,229
uh

2769
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:26,159
the number 33 being a

2770
01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:28,239
very interesting number and i can say

2771
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:29,040
uh

2772
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:31,040
when it comes to numbers and angel

2773
01:58:34,229 --> 01:58:32,400
numbers as they're sometimes called you

2774
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:34,239
know repeating one one one three three

2775
01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:35,520
three four four

2776
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:37,599
all that um

2777
01:58:42,070 --> 01:58:39,360
i i've actually been seeing those

2778
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:42,080
numbers uh with uh you know someone i've

2779
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:44,000
been chatting with on on facebook

2780
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:45,679
ever since last week ever since last

2781
01:58:49,669 --> 01:58:46,800
wednesday

2782
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,679
and it's like you know up until

2783
01:58:53,910 --> 01:58:51,360
saturday it was just getting

2784
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:53,920
increasingly more like

2785
01:58:58,310 --> 01:58:56,239
pitched off again in anything whether it

2786
01:59:00,229 --> 01:58:58,320
was subscribers whether it was

2787
01:59:03,030 --> 01:59:00,239
uh you know a dollar figure we were

2788
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:03,040
looking at online just one one one three

2789
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:05,280
three three five five five four four

2790
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:06,320
four

2791
01:59:10,629 --> 01:59:07,920
five five five i think appeared two or

2792
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:10,639
three times but like even with

2793
01:59:13,990 --> 01:59:12,560
uh

2794
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:14,000
distances

2795
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:15,360
like if you've got three routes on

2796
01:59:18,629 --> 01:59:17,280
google maps so that's one three and then

2797
01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:18,639
you would see

2798
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:21,760
um you know let's say one route has uh

2799
01:59:25,270 --> 01:59:23,599
you know a certain sequence of numbers

2800
01:59:27,510 --> 01:59:25,280
and it would be like three three two

2801
01:59:30,629 --> 01:59:27,520
seven uh and like three hours to drive

2802
01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:30,639
or like 5.37 hours to drive and if you

2803
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:33,199
looked at each route each route

2804
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,520
had one of the sequential numbers if you

2805
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:37,280
actually added it together

2806
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:39,440
so there you know there are some things

2807
01:59:43,030 --> 01:59:41,440
with reality that

2808
01:59:45,109 --> 01:59:43,040
we don't necessarily understand you know

2809
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:45,119
this is predicted by the model i mean

2810
01:59:49,030 --> 01:59:46,960
george nori for years and years used to

2811
01:59:51,109 --> 01:59:49,040
say i'm seeing eleven elevens all over i

2812
01:59:52,709 --> 01:59:51,119
wonder what that means

2813
01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:52,719
so i sat down one day and i actually

2814
01:59:55,669 --> 01:59:54,320
figured out what it meant

2815
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:55,679
and when i told him he was kind of

2816
01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:57,119
unimpressed because i guess it wasn't

2817
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:58,719
what he expected

2818
02:00:02,790 --> 02:00:01,199
but 11 11 or any of these sequential

2819
02:00:05,990 --> 02:00:02,800
numbers are all part of the

2820
02:00:07,510 --> 02:00:06,000
hyperdimensional 19.5 equation

2821
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:07,520
and i've got a series of slides in a

2822
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:09,360
powerpoint i did in los angeles some

2823
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:11,840
years ago that actually

2824
02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:14,159
step by step how you get this hyper

2825
02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:15,760
dimensional equation

2826
02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:17,760
what it means is not that anybody is

2827
02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:20,639
doing this this is the fabric of reality

2828
02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:22,000
this is the pattern

2829
02:00:27,990 --> 02:00:25,599
resonance nodes in reality itself that

2830
02:00:30,310 --> 02:00:28,000
manifest as these numbers which are

2831
02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:30,320
reflective of the underlying reality

2832
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:35,189
it's kind of like conscious conscious

2833
02:00:39,030 --> 02:00:37,679
minds that are aware of these patterns

2834
02:00:40,550 --> 02:00:39,040
they're more at the cutting edge and

2835
02:00:42,310 --> 02:00:40,560
they're more

2836
02:00:44,229 --> 02:00:42,320
let's say in tune

2837
02:00:46,310 --> 02:00:44,239
with the new patterns emerging than

2838
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:46,320
people who don't notice them

2839
02:00:49,030 --> 02:00:47,280
and

2840
02:00:52,229 --> 02:00:49,040
the best way to be able to describe it i

2841
02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:52,239
think i was talking to to a phd in

2842
02:00:57,510 --> 02:00:55,280
esotericism uh uh aaron cheek out out in

2843
02:00:59,430 --> 02:00:57,520
new zealand and we were describing this

2844
02:01:01,189 --> 02:00:59,440
this um you know this phenomenon he

2845
02:01:04,390 --> 02:01:01,199
essentially didn't know there was a phd

2846
02:01:07,510 --> 02:01:04,400
inheritance error error what would you

2847
02:01:08,870 --> 02:01:07,520
say esotericism esotericism there's a

2848
02:01:10,070 --> 02:01:08,880
few in the world he's he's one of the

2849
02:01:10,870 --> 02:01:10,080
foremost

2850
02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:10,880
and

2851
02:01:12,709 --> 02:01:11,760
uh

2852
02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:12,719
he

2853
02:01:15,910 --> 02:01:14,560
explained it or later can you can you

2854
02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:15,920
tell him about our show i'd like to talk

2855
02:01:20,470 --> 02:01:17,920
to him uh you don't actually i can get

2856
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:20,480
him in touch with you uh fantastic

2857
02:01:25,270 --> 02:01:23,360
now one way that we describe it is okay

2858
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,280
if you have a grinding wheel and you put

2859
02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:27,280
it up against metal and that's kind of

2860
02:01:31,030 --> 02:01:29,360
you know either a force going up against

2861
02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:31,040
the universe or even just you know two

2862
02:01:34,790 --> 02:01:32,159
universes

2863
02:01:36,310 --> 02:01:34,800
parallel to one another bumping up

2864
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:36,320
something like those angel numbers

2865
02:01:40,470 --> 02:01:38,719
seeing that one one one one one or you

2866
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:40,480
know seeing three sequential numbers

2867
02:01:46,229 --> 02:01:42,719
like that continuously is kind of like

2868
02:01:47,189 --> 02:01:46,239
the sparks flying off of that it's the

2869
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:47,199
you know

2870
02:01:50,950 --> 02:01:48,560
i'm gonna say that the matrix is

2871
02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:50,960
manifesting in weird ways you're seeing

2872
02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:53,280
that black cat in deja vu twice and

2873
02:01:57,350 --> 02:01:56,320
whether it is a simulated reality or is

2874
02:01:58,709 --> 02:01:57,360
actually

2875
02:02:01,270 --> 02:01:58,719
having to deal with

2876
02:02:03,189 --> 02:02:01,280
a parallel universe that is or or

2877
02:02:05,189 --> 02:02:03,199
somebody's trying to send a message

2878
02:02:06,950 --> 02:02:05,199
through that parallel universe or even

2879
02:02:08,870 --> 02:02:06,960
through that matrix specifically to get

2880
02:02:12,390 --> 02:02:08,880
your attention

2881
02:02:13,990 --> 02:02:12,400
that type of feature or that type of or

2882
02:02:15,669 --> 02:02:14,000
if that would be you trying to get your

2883
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:15,679
attention in another dimension or in the

2884
02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:17,599
future remember remember we don't we

2885
02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:20,400
don't live in this 3d reality this is a

2886
02:02:23,669 --> 02:02:22,400
virtual reality projection of a higher

2887
02:02:25,589 --> 02:02:23,679
dimensional

2888
02:02:28,149 --> 02:02:25,599
existing state space

2889
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:28,159
so if someone i mean who would who would

2890
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:29,360
best be

2891
02:02:34,390 --> 02:02:31,040
who would care the most about sending

2892
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:35,750
either myself trying to get my own

2893
02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:38,560
attention exactly because we all love

2894
02:02:41,189 --> 02:02:39,760
ourselves

2895
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:41,199
so i've been looking at these kind of

2896
02:02:47,350 --> 02:02:43,760
patterns going back decades you know i

2897
02:02:49,229 --> 02:02:47,360
found the 19-point pi pattern initially

2898
02:02:50,950 --> 02:02:49,239
in something called

2899
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:50,960
astrocartography

2900
02:02:55,109 --> 02:02:52,960
you know what that is

2901
02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:55,119
uh mapping up stars if i'm not mistaken

2902
02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:56,960
no no no

2903
02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:59,199
in astrology it's basically mapping

2904
02:03:03,350 --> 02:03:00,480
where you're born

2905
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:03,360
versus various angles and alignments and

2906
02:03:07,910 --> 02:03:05,520
conjunctions and all that

2907
02:03:11,350 --> 02:03:07,920
and when i looked at that data it was

2908
02:03:14,229 --> 02:03:11,360
19.5 came out over and over again

2909
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:14,239
so that seems see 195 is the key to

2910
02:03:18,709 --> 02:03:16,480
understanding this entire

2911
02:03:19,990 --> 02:03:18,719
physics that's that's the code key if

2912
02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:20,000
you were going to express

2913
02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:22,480
hyperdimensional reality in one

2914
02:03:26,070 --> 02:03:23,760
expression

2915
02:03:28,629 --> 02:03:26,080
19.5 is it

2916
02:03:32,149 --> 02:03:28,639
i mean for instance trump our president

2917
02:03:33,589 --> 02:03:32,159
trump just signed the the annual budget

2918
02:03:35,669 --> 02:03:33,599
for nasa

2919
02:03:37,830 --> 02:03:35,679
guess how much

2920
02:03:39,589 --> 02:03:37,840
uh 19.5 billion

2921
02:03:42,950 --> 02:03:39,599
you got it

2922
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,960
if you look at mid latitude

2923
02:03:46,310 --> 02:03:44,560
electrical currents in the upper

2924
02:03:48,229 --> 02:03:46,320
atmosphere both in the northern southern

2925
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:48,239
hemisphere

2926
02:03:53,669 --> 02:03:51,840
19.5 degrees latitude north and south

2927
02:03:56,550 --> 02:03:53,679
if you look at the upwelling of the

2928
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:56,560
great red spot on jupiter 19.5 degrees

2929
02:04:00,550 --> 02:03:58,000
latitude

2930
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:00,560
if you look at the median

2931
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:02,320
uh let's see this is a hard one this is

2932
02:04:06,790 --> 02:04:04,960
an economics which i was stunned by

2933
02:04:08,950 --> 02:04:06,800
if you look at the

2934
02:04:11,830 --> 02:04:08,960
equilibrium curve between

2935
02:04:13,109 --> 02:04:11,840
raising the the marginal rates of income

2936
02:04:15,189 --> 02:04:13,119
taxes

2937
02:04:16,390 --> 02:04:15,199
and the number of wealthy billions of

2938
02:04:20,070 --> 02:04:16,400
people

2939
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:20,080
the denominator turns out 19.5

2940
02:04:24,229 --> 02:04:22,320
so it's everywhere if you look if you

2941
02:04:26,229 --> 02:04:24,239
take a satellite photograph of a of a

2942
02:04:29,830 --> 02:04:26,239
boat going across the lake

2943
02:04:32,149 --> 02:04:31,030
that angle

2944
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:32,159
to the boat

2945
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:34,000
19.5 degrees

2946
02:04:38,550 --> 02:04:36,320
so this is a fundamental concept of the

2947
02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:38,560
resonances of the hyperdimensional

2948
02:04:44,229 --> 02:04:41,280
reality in which our 3d reality is based

2949
02:04:46,870 --> 02:04:44,239
now i know people like musk and others

2950
02:04:49,270 --> 02:04:46,880
have talked about are we living in a

2951
02:04:51,430 --> 02:04:49,280
artificially created virtual computer

2952
02:04:53,430 --> 02:04:51,440
program computer simulation

2953
02:04:54,310 --> 02:04:53,440
right

2954
02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:54,320
yes

2955
02:05:01,750 --> 02:04:59,760
i would project i would propose that the

2956
02:05:04,310 --> 02:05:01,760
the answer is no

2957
02:05:07,030 --> 02:05:04,320
and the reason is in such an artificial

2958
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:07,040
reality why would the same number keep

2959
02:05:11,189 --> 02:05:09,199
coming up again and again and again

2960
02:05:14,550 --> 02:05:11,199
consistent with a physical model of the

2961
02:05:18,790 --> 02:05:14,560
universe in which that number is endemic

2962
02:05:21,510 --> 02:05:20,550
i think i think it also has something to

2963
02:05:23,030 --> 02:05:21,520
do with

2964
02:05:23,750 --> 02:05:23,040
uh

2965
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:23,760
it

2966
02:05:30,790 --> 02:05:29,520
some type of intelligent design or some

2967
02:05:32,790 --> 02:05:30,800
type of

2968
02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:32,800
well fourth dimensional there remember

2969
02:05:36,629 --> 02:05:34,560
resonance nodes can be incredibly

2970
02:05:38,629 --> 02:05:36,639
powerful this is true

2971
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:38,639
incredibly powerful there is order out

2972
02:05:42,709 --> 02:05:41,280
of chaos in resonance patterns

2973
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:42,719
look at you know something called the

2974
02:05:45,669 --> 02:05:44,560
koladny effect

2975
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:45,679
i've heard of it i'm just trying to

2976
02:05:48,870 --> 02:05:46,880
remember the colony effect i'm going to

2977
02:05:50,470 --> 02:05:48,880
look

2978
02:05:54,629 --> 02:05:50,480
see right now we should have that music

2979
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:54,639
dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum

2980
02:05:59,109 --> 02:05:57,840
dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum

2981
02:06:01,430 --> 02:05:59,119
kind of like you know

2982
02:06:04,310 --> 02:06:01,440
background we have a sandwich

2983
02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:04,320
music well we have a sandwich um

2984
02:06:08,070 --> 02:06:06,000
one fun thing we do on the show is we we

2985
02:06:09,830 --> 02:06:08,080
rate and and talk about sandwiches at

2986
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:09,840
the end of it we have a piano track for

2987
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:11,920
that but i can't i can't use that for

2988
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:13,360
this unfortunately

2989
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:14,960
well this is for just straight from alex

2990
02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:17,199
trebek this is you know um

2991
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:19,440
whatever that show is he does because

2992
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:24,950
this tells us that it's not a synthetic

2993
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:26,560
reality

2994
02:06:30,709 --> 02:06:28,719
that in fact and i'll give you one

2995
02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:30,719
really important example

2996
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:32,079
oh and i'm trying to remember which one

2997
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:34,079
i want to pick um

2998
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:41,270
would this not relate to or point

2999
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:42,880
towards some type of

3000
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:45,440
intelligent designer fourth dimensional

3001
02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:46,960
being or

3002
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:48,400
yeah i mean you can imagine we're all

3003
02:06:53,109 --> 02:06:50,560
part of some kid's science project

3004
02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:53,119
and he's he or she is imposing

3005
02:06:58,030 --> 02:06:55,280
this pattern on our synthetic universe

3006
02:07:00,709 --> 02:06:58,040
to see how we respond but since

3007
02:07:02,870 --> 02:07:00,719
99.999 percent of people are oblivious

3008
02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:02,880
to this pattern it's like what's what's

3009
02:07:06,069 --> 02:07:03,840
the point

3010
02:07:08,629 --> 02:07:06,079
it's like a colonial figures the the

3011
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:08,639
running the bow string along the yeah

3012
02:07:11,030 --> 02:07:10,079
well they're part of this pattern

3013
02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:11,040
because

3014
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:13,920
if you take a a drum like a

3015
02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:15,119
drum head

3016
02:07:20,229 --> 02:07:18,239
or you take a metal thing like a symbol

3017
02:07:22,229 --> 02:07:20,239
and you suspend it

3018
02:07:23,910 --> 02:07:22,239
so that it's it's suspended from like

3019
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:23,920
you know the edges or one point in the

3020
02:07:27,109 --> 02:07:24,800
middle

3021
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:27,119
and then you sprinkle sand

3022
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:29,840
on this flat surface

3023
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:31,760
and you make it vibrate you make it

3024
02:07:36,229 --> 02:07:33,840
vibrate by either tapping it or you make

3025
02:07:37,030 --> 02:07:36,239
it vibrate by drawing a violin

3026
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:37,040
bow

3027
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:40,560
down past the edge of the metal plate

3028
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:42,880
it will create these stunning

3029
02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:46,159
geometric hyperdimensional tetrahedral

3030
02:07:50,870 --> 02:07:48,239
torsion field physics patterns on the

3031
02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:52,470
so it tells me

3032
02:07:58,390 --> 02:07:55,679
these patterns are endemic in the fabric

3033
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:58,400
of the field itself they're not imposed

3034
02:08:03,109 --> 02:08:00,560
by some artificial

3035
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,119
tinkering they're endemic to the reality

3036
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,360
the physics of the reality we're in

3037
02:08:09,350 --> 02:08:07,119
now you can get very existential and say

3038
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:09,360
well is that some kid's you know

3039
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:10,960
backyard science project in a higher

3040
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:12,320
dimension

3041
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:14,000
at that point there's no way i can think

3042
02:08:18,310 --> 02:08:16,480
of them right now to test that

3043
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:18,320
so i'm looking at the natural model that

3044
02:08:24,069 --> 02:08:20,480
the universe basically it goes from

3045
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:24,079
non-awareness to awareness it evolves

3046
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:25,520
and it has an infinite amount of time to

3047
02:08:29,109 --> 02:08:27,040
evolve infinitely

3048
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:29,119
and we have no idea where we are in that

3049
02:08:34,390 --> 02:08:31,760
evolution because it probably bifurcates

3050
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:34,400
into smaller and smaller subuniverses

3051
02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:37,840
also vibrating in that resonance node so

3052
02:08:43,030 --> 02:08:41,360
it's an infinite replication pattern

3053
02:08:44,870 --> 02:08:43,040
and ultimately we'll all wind up

3054
02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:44,880
realizing this is true

3055
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:46,560
but until we do we're having a lot of

3056
02:08:51,910 --> 02:08:48,400
fun getting there

3057
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:51,920
it's called life or more than one i'm

3058
02:08:56,310 --> 02:08:53,440
looking at some of these videos and i'm

3059
02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:56,320
broadcasting it out to the audience and

3060
02:09:01,030 --> 02:08:58,639
the the patterns are well the music

3061
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:01,040
first of all is quite freaky

3062
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:04,320
it's very very haunting and then you

3063
02:09:07,669 --> 02:09:05,360
when you change the resonance

3064
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:07,679
frequencies the pattern changes

3065
02:09:12,470 --> 02:09:09,520
instantly

3066
02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:12,480
how does this relate to using sound to

3067
02:09:16,149 --> 02:09:14,000
to lift

3068
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:16,159
or levitate objects

3069
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:18,639
not really no when when we did the

3070
02:09:24,069 --> 02:09:21,520
special nbc on the uh secret of the

3071
02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:24,079
sphinx with boris saeed

3072
02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:26,639
and paul i forget the last the

3073
02:09:30,950 --> 02:09:28,480
producer's last name

3074
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,960
um we actually had a sequence where we

3075
02:09:34,629 --> 02:09:32,480
were talking about

3076
02:09:35,990 --> 02:09:34,639
the moving the stones to build the great

3077
02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:36,000
pyramid

3078
02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:38,079
and some of the ancient mythology talks

3079
02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:40,239
about sound and resonance

3080
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:42,400
and everybody has misappropriated

3081
02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:44,000
because they're not talking about sound

3082
02:09:48,950 --> 02:09:47,280
as we hear it remember as above so below

3083
02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:48,960
resonance nodes in the ether in the

3084
02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:51,119
torsion field are equivalent to

3085
02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:53,280
resonance nodes in a sound wave that you

3086
02:09:58,790 --> 02:09:55,360
can listen to it doesn't mean you can

3087
02:10:00,870 --> 02:09:58,800
use sound to levitate massive multi-ton

3088
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:00,880
blocks and the biggest thing we were

3089
02:10:06,709 --> 02:10:03,840
able to with the most interesting nasa

3090
02:10:10,310 --> 02:10:06,719
technology we could find could levitate

3091
02:10:13,189 --> 02:10:10,320
a little micro dot of styrofoam

3092
02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:13,199
and just hold it suspended

3093
02:10:17,830 --> 02:10:15,840
if you had a if you had a bigger mass

3094
02:10:20,950 --> 02:10:17,840
if you dumped enough sound waves into to

3095
02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:20,960
levitate it you would melt it

3096
02:10:26,069 --> 02:10:23,040
the energy would simply be absorbed and

3097
02:10:28,310 --> 02:10:26,079
it would become a sudden levitating blob

3098
02:10:31,189 --> 02:10:28,320
until it splattered all over the chamber

3099
02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:31,199
so no you cannot use sound to replicate

3100
02:10:36,310 --> 02:10:33,760
true anti-gravity but you can interfere

3101
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,320
with gravity which is waves in the

3102
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:38,639
torsion field and you can negate them

3103
02:10:43,030 --> 02:10:40,400
and therefore you can change inertia and

3104
02:10:45,430 --> 02:10:43,040
mass and gravity by using the torsion

3105
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:45,440
field technology which of course is

3106
02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:47,280
which is being done in the so-called

3107
02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:49,280
secret space program which is how they

3108
02:10:59,109 --> 02:10:57,430
isn't there a methodology

3109
02:11:01,910 --> 02:10:59,119
that has been talked about i know that

3110
02:11:03,669 --> 02:11:01,920
there is the mercury method there's the

3111
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:03,679
that uh obscure

3112
02:11:09,189 --> 02:11:07,040
element that lazarus talked about um you

3113
02:11:10,790 --> 02:11:09,199
know there's also the the uh

3114
02:11:13,189 --> 02:11:10,800
electrogravidics which has been

3115
02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:13,199
discussed in your opinion which of those

3116
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,159
three

3117
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:17,119
technologies is actually true or is it

3118
02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:17,840
all

3119
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:20,320
there's something completely different

3120
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:22,400
no i i think they're all true but we're

3121
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,320
looking at the you know the old classic

3122
02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:26,320
problem of how many guys blindfolded

3123
02:11:30,069 --> 02:11:27,920
touching an elephant can tell you the

3124
02:11:32,629 --> 02:11:30,079
real picture of the elephant

3125
02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:32,639
yeah every one of these disciplines is a

3126
02:11:36,229 --> 02:11:34,719
part of the picture

3127
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:36,239
the real reality

3128
02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:38,320
electro gravity is a part of how to

3129
02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:40,400
create antigravity

3130
02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:43,280
using liquid mercury is part of how to

3131
02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:46,000
create vimani and antigravity et cetera

3132
02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:47,040
et cetera

3133
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:49,440
the one i'm really partial to right now

3134
02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:51,520
is the m drive have you heard about the

3135
02:11:54,870 --> 02:11:53,280
m drive that is the one that breaks the

3136
02:11:56,470 --> 02:11:54,880
laws of physics it essentially shoots

3137
02:11:57,750 --> 02:11:56,480
out elections they all do all those

3138
02:11:59,910 --> 02:11:57,760
things we just talked about would break

3139
02:12:01,910 --> 02:11:59,920
the laws of physics forget physics as we

3140
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:01,920
think we know them because a they're

3141
02:12:04,149 --> 02:12:03,040
wrong and b

3142
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:04,159
they've been

3143
02:12:07,830 --> 02:12:05,280
suborned

3144
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:07,840
the physics we've been allowed to know

3145
02:12:11,669 --> 02:12:09,599
is just enough to keep us down on the

3146
02:12:13,990 --> 02:12:11,679
farm it's not how the universe really

3147
02:12:15,910 --> 02:12:14,000
works

3148
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:15,920
i uh like we we've had robert baval on

3149
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:18,960
the show um i think it was episode 31 or

3150
02:12:24,069 --> 02:12:21,760
32. this is oh no it's 31.

3151
02:12:26,629 --> 02:12:24,079
and we had discussed um it was an

3152
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:26,639
impromptu uh interview

3153
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:29,280
and we discussed his is a work that's

3154
02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:30,960
coming up that's released at the end of

3155
02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:32,239
the year and he's been doing a lot of

3156
02:12:35,510 --> 02:12:33,199
work with

3157
02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:35,520
um you know theoretical physicists and

3158
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:38,239
and you know scientists to who is this

3159
02:12:42,550 --> 02:12:39,840
uh robert paval

3160
02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:42,560
yeah right robert and

3161
02:12:47,350 --> 02:12:45,520
his idea behind the pyramid i'm gonna

3162
02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:47,360
touch on this because we we do a lot of

3163
02:12:50,149 --> 02:12:49,199
ancient history on on on the show as

3164
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:50,159
well

3165
02:12:56,550 --> 02:12:53,599
is that the pyramid may have been

3166
02:12:58,950 --> 02:12:56,560
not necessarily a machine itself

3167
02:13:00,069 --> 02:12:58,960
but it could have been a very advanced

3168
02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:00,079
uh

3169
02:13:06,470 --> 02:13:03,679
3d blueprint as well as a puzzle to test

3170
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:06,480
our own technology level

3171
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:07,920
i missed some of that because robin came

3172
02:13:10,629 --> 02:13:09,520
in she just came home she said what are

3173
02:13:11,750 --> 02:13:10,639
you doing

3174
02:13:13,030 --> 02:13:11,760
mind me you know because i'm on the

3175
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:13,040
radio

3176
02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:14,320
so i'm trying to tell her without

3177
02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:16,880
telling the audience that i'm talking so

3178
02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:19,520
you go back to baval paul has of course

3179
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:21,360
worked with graham hancock on the

3180
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:23,199
pyramids on each in egypt et cetera et

3181
02:13:27,990 --> 02:13:25,360
cetera what is what kind of technology

3182
02:13:29,830 --> 02:13:28,000
was he talking about he was stating that

3183
02:13:31,189 --> 02:13:29,840
it it's a possibility and we we had a

3184
02:13:33,510 --> 02:13:31,199
discussion where i was talking about the

3185
02:13:35,750 --> 02:13:33,520
pyramid possibly being a machine

3186
02:13:38,229 --> 02:13:35,760
oh it is a machine unquestionably okay

3187
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:38,239
now and and and and the guy who's the

3188
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:40,480
real pioneer in this area is a guy named

3189
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:42,320
chris dunn

3190
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:44,400
robert is kind of late to the party when

3191
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:46,159
it comes to acknowledging the pyramid

3192
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:47,920
might be a machine he doesn't die but

3193
02:13:51,109 --> 02:13:49,280
it's a hyper dimension it's not what

3194
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:51,119
chris dunn thinks it's much more

3195
02:13:55,430 --> 02:13:52,800
extraordinary well this is where because

3196
02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:55,440
chris dunn is using 19th century physics

3197
02:13:59,510 --> 02:13:57,360
to try to explain within the newtonian

3198
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:59,520
paradigm how it could be a machine well

3199
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:00,800
he's not necessarily saying it's a

3200
02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:02,800
machine i had said that it

3201
02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:04,480
wasn't uh baval is not saying it's a

3202
02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:06,320
machine i had suggested that he said

3203
02:14:11,109 --> 02:14:08,400
it's possible that it's a 3d

3204
02:14:14,229 --> 02:14:11,119
blueprint of a to for

3205
02:14:16,470 --> 02:14:14,239
to to to one test our technology so that

3206
02:14:18,790 --> 02:14:16,480
when we actually get to a point where we

3207
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:18,800
can fully understand what the building

3208
02:14:21,189 --> 02:14:19,599
is

3209
02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:21,199
then they will use it to build a machine

3210
02:14:26,310 --> 02:14:22,719
ourselves from it

3211
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:26,320
it does encode principles yes very much

3212
02:14:30,870 --> 02:14:29,040
but my take and along with stan tenon

3213
02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:30,880
who you should talk to

3214
02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:32,239
for years and years we've talked about

3215
02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:34,800
how it's an actual machine

3216
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:36,960
it's not it just isn't the blueprint it

3217
02:14:40,149 --> 02:14:38,400
really works

3218
02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:40,159
all you have to do is make copies of it

3219
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:41,760
and understand the physics under which

3220
02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:43,840
it works and that brings us

3221
02:14:47,350 --> 02:14:45,440
you like the segway

3222
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:47,360
back to the m drive

3223
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:49,760
nice good good very very what does a

3224
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:52,159
pyramid look like think of a pyramid in

3225
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:54,000
your mind what do you see describe a

3226
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:55,599
pyramid

3227
02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:57,760
four sides flat base or one half of a

3228
02:15:02,069 --> 02:15:00,000
square basically a square if you start a

3229
02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:02,079
cube if you take a cube instead of

3230
02:15:06,470 --> 02:15:04,000
sticking it face down you kind of turn

3231
02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:06,480
it on a corner and you push that

3232
02:15:12,709 --> 02:15:09,360
into the ground so like you're taking a

3233
02:15:13,750 --> 02:15:12,719
cube and slicing it diagonally in half

3234
02:15:16,629 --> 02:15:13,760
okay

3235
02:15:18,709 --> 02:15:16,639
so it's a raised geometry with angles

3236
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:18,719
extending from a ground plane

3237
02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:22,800
up into the sky meeting at a point right

3238
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:24,000
correct

3239
02:15:27,990 --> 02:15:25,119
okay

3240
02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:28,000
now if you simplify the corners

3241
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:31,040
what is a pyramid

3242
02:15:34,870 --> 02:15:32,880
forget the corners get rid of the

3243
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,880
corners

3244
02:15:37,990 --> 02:15:36,400
a sphere

3245
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:38,000
no sorry if i'm getting rid of the

3246
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:39,119
corners

3247
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:43,199
it's a cone oh okay oh the co okay

3248
02:15:47,069 --> 02:15:45,599
it's a cone so a cone

3249
02:15:48,870 --> 02:15:47,079
and a pyramid

3250
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:48,880
geometrically

3251
02:15:53,030 --> 02:15:51,360
are the same

3252
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:53,040
all right okay

3253
02:15:56,629 --> 02:15:54,800
an m drive

3254
02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:56,639
is a cone

3255
02:16:00,149 --> 02:15:58,239
or a pyramid

3256
02:16:01,830 --> 02:16:00,159
made out of a conductive metal copper is

3257
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:01,840
usually used

3258
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:04,960
sealed at the base so nothing gets in

3259
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:07,440
nothing gets out

3260
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:10,000
except they put a little port in one

3261
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:11,119
side

3262
02:16:15,750 --> 02:16:13,920
and they pump in microwave energy

3263
02:16:19,030 --> 02:16:15,760
radio frequency high

3264
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:19,040
frequency radio waves and they rattle

3265
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:22,239
around inside the cone or the pyramid

3266
02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:24,880
and the damn thing wants to move

3267
02:16:28,629 --> 02:16:26,320
in the direction

3268
02:16:30,709 --> 02:16:28,639
of this tight end of the cone

3269
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:30,719
not the big end not the flat end but the

3270
02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:32,479
pointy end

3271
02:16:37,030 --> 02:16:35,200
with nothing coming out

3272
02:16:39,429 --> 02:16:37,040
it just wants to move

3273
02:16:42,070 --> 02:16:39,439
and it's proportional to the energy of

3274
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:42,080
the microwaves you pump in

3275
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:44,080
pump in two kilowatts you get x number

3276
02:16:48,709 --> 02:16:46,479
of uh you know

3277
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:48,719
centimeters per second acceleration

3278
02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:51,439
you pump in 10 times that kilowatts you

3279
02:16:56,150 --> 02:16:54,639
get 10 times the acceleration

3280
02:16:58,469 --> 02:16:56,160
and it's impossible

3281
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:58,479
except it works on the principle of

3282
02:17:04,070 --> 02:17:01,200
hyperdimensional torsion field physics

3283
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:04,080
meaning it's grabbing onto the torsion

3284
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:07,200
field outside the cone and moving along

3285
02:17:11,589 --> 02:17:09,200
that way because it creates resonant

3286
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:11,599
resonance waves in the torsion field

3287
02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:13,359
there's a conversion

3288
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:15,280
of the microwaves in the cone because of

3289
02:17:19,990 --> 02:17:16,719
the geometry

3290
02:17:22,709 --> 02:17:20,000
into exterior forces on the field that

3291
02:17:23,750 --> 02:17:22,719
surrounds us the ether i.e the torsion

3292
02:17:25,270 --> 02:17:23,760
field

3293
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:25,280
it's like pulling yourself up by your

3294
02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:26,960
bootstraps

3295
02:17:31,669 --> 02:17:29,359
and it has been

3296
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:31,679
replicated now by two separate groups an

3297
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:33,760
official nasa group called the eagle

3298
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:36,880
works there in houston and published in

3299
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:38,559
a peer-reviewed paper

3300
02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:40,559
it's also been replicated by a friend of

3301
02:17:43,589 --> 02:17:42,160
the other side of midnight and the

3302
02:17:46,389 --> 02:17:43,599
enterprise mission a guy named dave

3303
02:17:48,629 --> 02:17:46,399
destler in his garage in ohio in

3304
02:17:51,270 --> 02:17:48,639
cleveland ohio

3305
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:51,280
and we funded as part of raising money

3306
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:53,439
through the show enough crowdsourced

3307
02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:56,160
funding so dave could buy the right test

3308
02:18:00,950 --> 02:17:58,559
equipment to build an m drive that

3309
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:00,960
worked and then measure the results

3310
02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:03,599
above the noise

3311
02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:04,719
how was that

3312
02:18:09,190 --> 02:18:06,719
what were the major like results was it

3313
02:18:10,870 --> 02:18:09,200
exactly as it was proposed or were there

3314
02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:10,880
any

3315
02:18:15,910 --> 02:18:13,760
weird effects or maybe maybe it worked

3316
02:18:18,070 --> 02:18:15,920
better than you had actually expected no

3317
02:18:19,669 --> 02:18:18,080
no the effect itself is weird i mean

3318
02:18:21,349 --> 02:18:19,679
this actually came from the work of an

3319
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:21,359
engineer in britain named

3320
02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:22,800
roger sawyer

3321
02:18:26,389 --> 02:18:24,399
who worked for a telecommunications

3322
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:26,399
company that made satellites

3323
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:29,200
and according to the story roger noticed

3324
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:30,880
that even when they weren't using the

3325
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:31,920
engines

3326
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:33,760
in orbit you know you're in zero gravity

3327
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:35,200
right

3328
02:18:39,349 --> 02:18:36,960
when they weren't using the engines only

3329
02:18:41,750 --> 02:18:39,359
using the microwave feed horns

3330
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:41,760
there were anomalous motions on the

3331
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:44,399
satellite on the spacecraft

3332
02:18:49,589 --> 02:18:47,439
and he figured out that oh maybe

3333
02:18:50,950 --> 02:18:49,599
these microwave horns

3334
02:18:53,509 --> 02:18:50,960
were acting like

3335
02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:53,519
some kind of rocket thrust

3336
02:18:58,709 --> 02:18:56,240
way above what the light pressure or

3337
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:58,719
electromagnetic pressure would calculate

3338
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:00,479
if you actually use ordinary

3339
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:03,439
electromagnetic calculations to to

3340
02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:05,519
try to limb out how much pressure would

3341
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:08,000
move the satellite by how much

3342
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:09,439
so he started doing

3343
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:12,080
you know experiments on earth in a lab

3344
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:13,920
got some major funding from a couple of

3345
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:15,519
aerospace companies

3346
02:19:19,750 --> 02:19:17,200
and then of course as everything happens

3347
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:19,760
in this universe it all went black it

3348
02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:22,800
all went dark it all became classified

3349
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:24,399
and you've had little bits and pieces of

3350
02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:26,479
data pop up that other governments are

3351
02:19:30,389 --> 02:19:28,240
looking at like the chinese

3352
02:19:33,190 --> 02:19:30,399
there was a very interesting physicist

3353
02:19:35,270 --> 02:19:33,200
outside beijing who built a version of

3354
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:35,280
sawyer's m drive

3355
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:38,080
big copper cone dumping microwaves in

3356
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:40,719
and got really much more thrust than

3357
02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:43,200
they expected and then all that data

3358
02:19:46,230 --> 02:19:44,399
went dark

3359
02:19:48,230 --> 02:19:46,240
into the black

3360
02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:48,240
so it's interesting that the nasa

3361
02:19:52,309 --> 02:19:49,680
experiments and the distiller

3362
02:19:54,710 --> 02:19:52,319
experiments have not gone black we now

3363
02:19:57,590 --> 02:19:54,720
know the damn thing works

3364
02:20:00,070 --> 02:19:57,600
now that of course is your type 2

3365
02:20:02,469 --> 02:20:00,080
revolution chris this is a type 2

3366
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:02,479
technology because not only do you have

3367
02:20:07,429 --> 02:20:04,800
thrust out of nothing you just dump

3368
02:20:09,670 --> 02:20:07,439
electricity in and you get thrust

3369
02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:09,680
well that takes you anywhere you want in

3370
02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:12,479
in the galaxy in the universe

3371
02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:14,640
with no fuel

3372
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:17,200
zero fuel the fuel is the field around

3373
02:20:22,710 --> 02:20:18,880
you the field

3374
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:25,429
and here's the corollary

3375
02:20:30,550 --> 02:20:28,240
with this m drive you also get

3376
02:20:32,150 --> 02:20:30,560
infinite energy

3377
02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:32,160
let me repeat that

3378
02:20:36,790 --> 02:20:35,280
with the m drive you get infinite energy

3379
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:36,800
now there's a primitive way to harness

3380
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:38,240
that and then there's a very

3381
02:20:41,670 --> 02:20:39,920
sophisticated way let me give the

3382
02:20:43,030 --> 02:20:41,680
primitive way okay

3383
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:43,040
thought experiment

3384
02:20:47,030 --> 02:20:44,399
you've got a

3385
02:20:48,309 --> 02:20:47,040
rod sticking up out of your lab table

3386
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:48,319
right

3387
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:51,680
on the rod you've got a horizontal bar

3388
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:52,880
okay

3389
02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:54,960
on the horizontal bar and then the bar

3390
02:20:59,670 --> 02:20:57,680
can rotate around the rod 360. so it

3391
02:21:02,309 --> 02:20:59,680
rotates horizontally

3392
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,319
on the end of the bar you put an m drive

3393
02:21:06,309 --> 02:21:04,319
pointing in one direction

3394
02:21:08,870 --> 02:21:06,319
and on the other end you put an m drive

3395
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:08,880
pointing in the opposite direction

3396
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:10,800
and you turn the power on

3397
02:21:16,389 --> 02:21:13,760
and the bar slowly begins to rotate

3398
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:16,399
and it rotates faster and faster and

3399
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:18,240
faster and faster and faster and faster

3400
02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:20,560
and faster and in the middle

3401
02:21:24,150 --> 02:21:22,240
where the slip rings would be to feed

3402
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:24,160
the current to the m drives you have a

3403
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:26,800
little generator

3404
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:28,960
and you pick off the electricity that

3405
02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:32,000
you're making by spinning the end drives

3406
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:34,160
by dumping electricity into them and

3407
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:36,240
when you get the rotation up fast enough

3408
02:21:40,870 --> 02:21:38,240
you will produce out of the ether out of

3409
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:40,880
the torsion field more electrical energy

3410
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:42,720
than you're putting into the m drives

3411
02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:46,080
i.e is perpetual motion it's forever

3412
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:48,319
drive it's forever electricity it's

3413
02:21:54,070 --> 02:21:51,359
infinite energy it's the key to remaking

3414
02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:54,080
all of reality and it's within us now in

3415
02:21:57,670 --> 02:21:56,080
the 21st century because i know two

3416
02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:57,680
models that exist

3417
02:22:01,110 --> 02:21:59,920
that could be configured this way so

3418
02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:01,120
stick them together and let's get some

3419
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:03,600
free energy i i got a big plasma tv that

3420
02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:06,399
could use some power

3421
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:09,120
the point is we're in the revolution you

3422
02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:12,399
get it chris we're in disclosure

3423
02:22:15,910 --> 02:22:14,560
it's not going to be a clarion call from

3424
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:15,920
the white house with trump sitting there

3425
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:18,560
with a dour expression on his face

3426
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:20,560
it's going to happen regardless of what

3427
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,319
he does unless he adamantly refuses to

3428
02:22:28,230 --> 02:22:26,880
make public the kennedy documents in

3429
02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:28,240
which case the river will just flow

3430
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,800
around him because the m drive is real

3431
02:22:34,790 --> 02:22:32,560
other technologies are real have you

3432
02:22:36,710 --> 02:22:34,800
seen the quantum beaming that the

3433
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:36,720
chinese have been doing from satellite

3434
02:22:39,110 --> 02:22:37,760
to ground

3435
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:39,120
yes and that technology is going to

3436
02:22:43,429 --> 02:22:41,680
change like we we're going to hit

3437
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:43,439
a singularity in terms of technology

3438
02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:45,760
very soon if we haven't already hit it

3439
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:47,040
you've got to get off the planet you

3440
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:48,640
can't keep all this stuff on one little

3441
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:50,160
spit of dust you got to get off the

3442
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:50,960
earth

3443
02:22:54,790 --> 02:22:52,800
we have to colonize again the solar

3444
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:54,800
system we have to reach out and find the

3445
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:57,439
libraries we have to go to mars

3446
02:23:01,670 --> 02:22:59,680
and you know replicate rohrbacher's

3447
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:01,680
question except we will be the new

3448
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:03,520
civilization

3449
02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:05,439
you know following our great great great

3450
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:07,680
great great great grandmothers who grew

3451
02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:09,760
up on mars and at some point

3452
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:12,479
came back here

3453
02:23:17,110 --> 02:23:14,880
we are the martians

3454
02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:17,120
and i can prove it and i will prove it

3455
02:23:22,790 --> 02:23:19,760
with my six other authors in uh hidden

3456
02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:22,800
mars a war in heaven

3457
02:23:27,429 --> 02:23:24,800
and when is that book coming out

3458
02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:27,439
great question when it's done

3459
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:33,429
we're not held you know captive by any

3460
02:23:36,790 --> 02:23:35,040
commercial publishers it'll be ready

3461
02:23:38,469 --> 02:23:36,800
when it's you know as my grandmother

3462
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:38,479
used to say you know when the steamboat

3463
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:40,479
time you steam

3464
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,520
we're not going to put it out there

3465
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:42,960
until it's ready because we have to

3466
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,920
document all these amazing absurd things

3467
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:47,840
to make sure that the critics the paid

3468
02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:51,359
trolls the skeptics can't tear it apart

3469
02:23:54,070 --> 02:23:52,800
and i've noticed when it comes to the

3470
02:23:55,750 --> 02:23:54,080
paid trolls

3471
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:55,760
and i actually had to

3472
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:58,240
at least hint out there

3473
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:59,120
that

3474
02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:01,520
with the technical difficulties were it

3475
02:24:05,429 --> 02:24:03,600
again give giving the signal to to the

3476
02:24:07,670 --> 02:24:05,439
fans and listeners out there

3477
02:24:11,349 --> 02:24:07,680
that if there's technical difficulties

3478
02:24:13,110 --> 02:24:11,359
it is for sinister reasons because

3479
02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:13,120
they're going to try this they have it's

3480
02:24:16,309 --> 02:24:14,560
not the word clutches it's not that we

3481
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:16,319
know how to twist the dials it's because

3482
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:19,120
somebody doesn't want this message out

3483
02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:20,960
because the war is now not about is it

3484
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:25,760
real it's about what does it mean

3485
02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:27,520
now why

3486
02:24:33,670 --> 02:24:30,640
why would they be

3487
02:24:35,429 --> 02:24:33,680
the idea of uh extraterrestrials off you

3488
02:24:38,790 --> 02:24:35,439
know off planet you know being in the

3489
02:24:41,429 --> 02:24:38,800
solar system whether it is the moon mars

3490
02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:41,439
phobos deimos

3491
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:43,840
or even even like venus for instance and

3492
02:24:46,710 --> 02:24:45,359
i'm not sure how much work has been done

3493
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:46,720
with venus hard to get through that

3494
02:24:51,590 --> 02:24:48,800
cloud cover

3495
02:24:54,790 --> 02:24:51,600
but why if there is so much information

3496
02:24:58,790 --> 02:24:56,550
the idea of slowly releasing it to get

3497
02:25:00,230 --> 02:24:58,800
us used to it i can understand

3498
02:25:02,950 --> 02:25:00,240
but why would they not want to say okay

3499
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:02,960
so 150 million years ago or 200 million

3500
02:25:05,590 --> 02:25:04,160
years ago

3501
02:25:08,630 --> 02:25:05,600
there was

3502
02:25:10,070 --> 02:25:08,640
a race that lived on this planet

3503
02:25:11,429 --> 02:25:10,080
is is it's

3504
02:25:13,190 --> 02:25:11,439
the idea well we don't have to go

3505
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:13,200
anywhere near that far back we've had

3506
02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:16,560
after the the big experiment which was

3507
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:20,080
somewhere between 600 million and about

3508
02:25:24,630 --> 02:25:22,640
66 million years ago is when this

3509
02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:24,640
experiment flourished the big

3510
02:25:28,389 --> 02:25:26,319
type 2 experiment

3511
02:25:29,270 --> 02:25:28,399
then there was a war

3512
02:25:31,110 --> 02:25:29,280
and

3513
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:31,120
you raised a suggestion earlier was it

3514
02:25:34,309 --> 02:25:32,800
aliens no i think it was us i think it

3515
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:34,319
was a civil war

3516
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:37,040
i think our big we failed our first big

3517
02:25:42,550 --> 02:25:40,319
test we could not handle the god-like

3518
02:25:44,389 --> 02:25:42,560
abilities in three dimensions

3519
02:25:46,309 --> 02:25:44,399
the torsion field hyperdimensional

3520
02:25:48,070 --> 02:25:46,319
physics gives us

3521
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:48,080
the question now is

3522
02:25:52,630 --> 02:25:50,080
are we getting a second test

3523
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:52,640
are we going to fail that test or are we

3524
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:54,640
going to graduate and get on with the

3525
02:25:59,750 --> 02:25:57,280
rest of this experiment which is to meet

3526
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:59,760
the federation and become somewhat like

3527
02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:01,120
star trek with all kinds of

3528
02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:03,760
extraordinary possibilities with every

3529
02:26:11,110 --> 02:26:07,680
man woman person child dog cat whatever

3530
02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:11,120
able to live a decent humane life

3531
02:26:17,830 --> 02:26:13,040
because the least of our worries should

3532
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:20,630
for us to get off planet should we be

3533
02:26:25,750 --> 02:26:24,000
waiting for elon musk should we be no no

3534
02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:25,760
no no no

3535
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:27,439
as heinlein said once you're in orbit

3536
02:26:31,990 --> 02:26:29,680
you're halfway to anywhere

3537
02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:32,000
if the um if the end drive is what i

3538
02:26:35,429 --> 02:26:33,120
think it is

3539
02:26:37,429 --> 02:26:35,439
the m drive is the key to democratizing

3540
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:37,439
the solar system and god knows maybe

3541
02:26:40,469 --> 02:26:39,120
even the stars

3542
02:26:41,910 --> 02:26:40,479
we don't know the limits because no

3543
02:26:43,270 --> 02:26:41,920
one's really built

3544
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:43,280
you know

3545
02:26:46,710 --> 02:26:44,319
the right

3546
02:26:47,590 --> 02:26:46,720
drive mechanism to test the parameters

3547
02:26:49,590 --> 02:26:47,600
but

3548
02:26:51,590 --> 02:26:49,600
i was on the show the other night

3549
02:26:53,990 --> 02:26:51,600
and i was doing an interview with the

3550
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:54,000
folks that want to put up the first ufo

3551
02:27:00,309 --> 02:26:57,040
detection satellite

3552
02:27:01,270 --> 02:27:00,319
and we got talking as we do on our show

3553
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:01,280
and i

3554
02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:03,040
kind of limbed out the m drive and they

3555
02:27:06,389 --> 02:27:04,640
said oh my god can we get one of those

3556
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:06,399
in our satellite

3557
02:27:10,389 --> 02:27:08,960
and the satellite costs only as much as

3558
02:27:13,030 --> 02:27:10,399
a ferrari

3559
02:27:16,790 --> 02:27:13,040
they have crowdsourced an entire

3560
02:27:19,190 --> 02:27:16,800
spacecraft assembly launch and data

3561
02:27:20,550 --> 02:27:19,200
communications for as long as it lives

3562
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:20,560
in low earth orbit which will be a few

3563
02:27:23,750 --> 02:27:21,920
months

3564
02:27:25,590 --> 02:27:23,760
can you imagine if we could take

3565
02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:25,600
distiller space drive

3566
02:27:29,270 --> 02:27:27,280
a miniature version

3567
02:27:31,429 --> 02:27:29,280
put it in their satellite

3568
02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:31,439
turn on the switch and have that little

3569
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:32,720
spacecraft

3570
02:27:35,590 --> 02:27:34,240
bleed orbit

3571
02:27:38,230 --> 02:27:35,600
go to the moon

3572
02:27:39,750 --> 02:27:38,240
fly by mars

3573
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:39,760
without rockets

3574
02:27:45,270 --> 02:27:42,720
look ma no rockets

3575
02:27:48,389 --> 02:27:45,280
that's the revolution we can literally

3576
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:48,399
do by crowdfunding something trivial as

3577
02:27:54,230 --> 02:27:50,080
a ferrari

3578
02:27:55,349 --> 02:27:54,240
a lot

3579
02:28:00,950 --> 02:27:55,359
no

3580
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:00,960
well it all depends on on

3581
02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:02,560
we're talking being in the space game

3582
02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:04,160
for a few hundred thousand compared to

3583
02:28:08,469 --> 02:28:07,120
billions this is 19.5 billion if you're

3584
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:08,479
looking at it from that standpoint i can

3585
02:28:13,270 --> 02:28:11,439
understand it's democratizable we each

3586
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:13,280
can have our own space program or we

3587
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:15,040
what we really want to do is to

3588
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:16,160
collaborate

3589
02:28:21,590 --> 02:28:19,120
join a community doing meaningful things

3590
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:21,600
that will open the space frontier so we

3591
02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:24,640
can go in homestead mars in our lifetime

3592
02:28:28,469 --> 02:28:27,600
if we want to and no it's not musk root

3593
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:28,479
you know

3594
02:28:32,150 --> 02:28:30,640
rockets are not the way to do this what

3595
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:32,160
musk can do

3596
02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:34,960
is to give us a reasonably priced launch

3597
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:36,880
to take the end drive from earth to

3598
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:39,200
earth orbit so we test it in orbit and

3599
02:28:43,190 --> 02:28:40,800
you can't fake what's going on in orbit

3600
02:28:45,349 --> 02:28:43,200
in zero g

3601
02:28:46,950 --> 02:28:45,359
in other words if it leaves or if you

3602
02:28:48,950 --> 02:28:46,960
build it so that you have two m drives

3603
02:28:50,150 --> 02:28:48,960
on both sides of a rotating you know

3604
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:50,160
half box

3605
02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:52,080
and it spins it up to incredible

3606
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,880
velocities spinning you damn well know

3607
02:28:58,630 --> 02:28:56,640
the energy come from is not coming from

3608
02:29:00,469 --> 02:28:58,640
any conventional rocket it must be

3609
02:29:01,750 --> 02:29:00,479
coming from the m drive

3610
02:29:04,389 --> 02:29:01,760
working

3611
02:29:06,469 --> 02:29:04,399
against the laws of newton oh my god

3612
02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:06,479
we're shattering the laws of physics no

3613
02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:08,640
we're learning the real laws from the

3614
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:10,560
fake ones we've been living under for

3615
02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:16,870
i have one question that is coming from

3616
02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:18,399
just one

3617
02:29:21,670 --> 02:29:20,319
well we have i've been asking a lot of

3618
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:21,680
questions as i've been seeing i'm

3619
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:23,680
pulling information from oh this is this

3620
02:29:27,110 --> 02:29:25,200
is coming from from the web this is

3621
02:29:28,950 --> 02:29:27,120
coming from the web and

3622
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:28,960
i know that we're getting close to the

3623
02:29:32,150 --> 02:29:31,359
the end of the this segment um if i

3624
02:29:33,670 --> 02:29:32,160
and

3625
02:29:36,230 --> 02:29:33,680
you're you're you're amer you know

3626
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:36,240
you're a married man um you probably

3627
02:29:39,190 --> 02:29:38,160
understand what it is to get come to bed

3628
02:29:40,550 --> 02:29:39,200
too late

3629
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:40,560
so

3630
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:43,200
yes i do okay well then

3631
02:29:46,150 --> 02:29:44,240
i'm uh

3632
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:46,160
i have to make sure that we can um or at

3633
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:47,200
least i have to make sure that

3634
02:29:57,830 --> 02:29:55,750
uh it's a 12 43 and we still have the

3635
02:29:59,670 --> 02:29:57,840
one one last segment to be able to do

3636
02:30:02,150 --> 02:29:59,680
and i want to make sure at least that i

3637
02:30:03,750 --> 02:30:02,160
can say that with after this question

3638
02:30:05,270 --> 02:30:03,760
i do have to have you back on this show

3639
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:05,280
at some point because oh my goodness

3640
02:30:10,070 --> 02:30:08,319
everyone the entire time has been going

3641
02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:10,080
absolutely

3642
02:30:14,389 --> 02:30:12,720
insane as far as chatting back and forth

3643
02:30:16,469 --> 02:30:14,399
at the information that you're providing

3644
02:30:17,830 --> 02:30:16,479
and look if they want to follow all this

3645
02:30:19,910 --> 02:30:17,840
after your show all they have to do is

3646
02:30:21,349 --> 02:30:19,920
join club 19.5

3647
02:30:23,349 --> 02:30:21,359
because this is the resin detroit for

3648
02:30:25,590 --> 02:30:23,359
the other side of midnight

3649
02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:25,600
going back to long john neville where i

3650
02:30:31,270 --> 02:30:27,680
mean when i was a kid i used to listen

3651
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:31,280
to him on wor under the blanket because

3652
02:30:35,270 --> 02:30:33,120
my mommy wanted me to go to bed and i

3653
02:30:38,790 --> 02:30:35,280
didn't want to go to bed i got hooked on

3654
02:30:42,070 --> 02:30:38,800
this idea that oh my god reality is not

3655
02:30:44,630 --> 02:30:42,080
what they tell me it is in daytime

3656
02:30:45,429 --> 02:30:44,640
turns out that's reality daytime is the

3657
02:30:47,349 --> 02:30:45,439
fake

3658
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,359
nighttime is real reality and all the

3659
02:30:51,670 --> 02:30:49,600
crazy stuff that long john talked about

3660
02:30:53,110 --> 02:30:51,680
and art bell talked about and george has

3661
02:30:55,349 --> 02:30:53,120
talked about and all the other people

3662
02:30:57,349 --> 02:30:55,359
that have joined this party

3663
02:30:59,670 --> 02:30:57,359
that's part and parcel of the real

3664
02:31:01,750 --> 02:30:59,680
reality and your guide is going to be

3665
02:31:03,590 --> 02:31:01,760
joint club 19.5

3666
02:31:06,550 --> 02:31:03,600
and you're going to have a first front

3667
02:31:09,190 --> 02:31:06,560
row seat not only in watching it unfold

3668
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:09,200
but in making it unfold

3669
02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:10,640
like funding

3670
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:14,080
an m drive for space for the satellite

3671
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:16,080
group that wants to put it up into orbit

3672
02:31:23,270 --> 02:31:21,750
now speaking of of

3673
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:23,280
future temperatures

3674
02:31:27,349 --> 02:31:25,120
well this is what i was trying to segue

3675
02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,359
myself um i i don't have your experience

3676
02:31:31,590 --> 02:31:30,240
so please please do please do forgive me

3677
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:31,600
um

3678
02:31:34,870 --> 02:31:33,680
and i'm talking on the radio it's

3679
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:34,880
we've only been on the air for about a

3680
02:31:38,309 --> 02:31:36,880
year uh at this point

3681
02:31:40,070 --> 02:31:38,319
and

3682
02:31:41,590 --> 02:31:40,080
in the next year who knows what what can

3683
02:31:44,389 --> 02:31:41,600
happen such as

3684
02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:44,399
d-wave computers as well as artificial

3685
02:31:48,710 --> 02:31:47,040
intelligence i would love and the

3686
02:31:50,309 --> 02:31:48,720
listeners who are sending in these

3687
02:31:52,870 --> 02:31:50,319
questions would love to get your opinion

3688
02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:54,950
it may not happen next year i mean there

3689
02:31:59,670 --> 02:31:57,520
are there are some limits just because

3690
02:32:02,630 --> 02:31:59,680
you have to kind of get an industrial

3691
02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:02,640
base that can work in this new level of

3692
02:32:05,830 --> 02:32:04,479
technology and precision

3693
02:32:07,750 --> 02:32:05,840
but when i see what the chinese are

3694
02:32:09,590 --> 02:32:07,760
doing with quantum computing and you

3695
02:32:11,270 --> 02:32:09,600
know teleporting

3696
02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:11,280
what qualm states

3697
02:32:16,150 --> 02:32:13,920
that's a forerunner of the transporter i

3698
02:32:17,990 --> 02:32:16,160
mean kid you not

3699
02:32:18,950 --> 02:32:18,000
and you know the problem how do we get

3700
02:32:20,150 --> 02:32:18,960
from

3701
02:32:22,550 --> 02:32:20,160
you know

3702
02:32:24,469 --> 02:32:22,560
transporting a quantum state to

3703
02:32:25,990 --> 02:32:24,479
transporting a person

3704
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:26,000
that's probably

3705
02:32:29,990 --> 02:32:27,760
well it's hard to predict because

3706
02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:30,000
remember the future is not linear the

3707
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:32,080
future is asymptotic

3708
02:32:37,510 --> 02:32:34,720
meaning the curve doesn't go

3709
02:32:41,030 --> 02:32:37,520
twice as far out and twice as far up

3710
02:32:43,429 --> 02:32:41,040
it goes up like a lovelorn rocket

3711
02:32:45,349 --> 02:32:43,439
almost vertically very quickly

3712
02:32:47,190 --> 02:32:45,359
so the idea of things that are in

3713
02:32:49,750 --> 02:32:47,200
certain eras

3714
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:49,760
it it's kind of meaningless to talk

3715
02:32:54,950 --> 02:32:52,640
about how many thousands of years an et

3716
02:32:56,309 --> 02:32:54,960
civilization would be ahead of us

3717
02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:56,319
because we could be there tomorrow

3718
02:33:00,870 --> 02:32:58,240
depending upon the rate at which

3719
02:33:03,750 --> 02:33:00,880
inventive creative people are

3720
02:33:05,750 --> 02:33:03,760
are supported to take their crazy ideas

3721
02:33:08,150 --> 02:33:05,760
and make them real

3722
02:33:10,550 --> 02:33:08,160
and at the moment it's at the it's at

3723
02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:10,560
the boundaries but as soon as we

3724
02:33:14,230 --> 02:33:12,640
acknowledge that we're not alone that we

3725
02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:14,240
have this incredible history that we're

3726
02:33:18,830 --> 02:33:16,240
surrounded by artifacts of an ancient

3727
02:33:20,469 --> 02:33:18,840
culture which is ours actually many

3728
02:33:22,950 --> 02:33:20,479
cultures

3729
02:33:25,270 --> 02:33:22,960
the lid on thinking and

3730
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:25,280
allocating resources to going and

3731
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:27,760
scavenging that technology and figuring

3732
02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:30,080
out how it works and putting it to use

3733
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:32,560
for seven billion people on this planet

3734
02:33:36,950 --> 02:33:34,800
who basically are going to die unless

3735
02:33:38,389 --> 02:33:36,960
they get a tremendous infusion of

3736
02:33:39,670 --> 02:33:38,399
resources

3737
02:33:41,190 --> 02:33:39,680
soon

3738
02:33:43,190 --> 02:33:41,200
that's going to be the driver which

3739
02:33:45,030 --> 02:33:43,200
means that all bets as to how long or

3740
02:33:46,070 --> 02:33:45,040
how short this is going to take are kind

3741
02:33:48,150 --> 02:33:46,080
of off

3742
02:33:49,270 --> 02:33:48,160
so i wouldn't say next year but five

3743
02:33:53,910 --> 02:33:49,280
years

3744
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:53,920
the most amazing future go watch a movie

3745
02:33:57,670 --> 02:33:55,840
called tomorrowland

3746
02:33:59,190 --> 02:33:57,680
all right yup i've watched it

3747
02:34:01,190 --> 02:33:59,200
done by george i've watched it two or

3748
02:34:02,950 --> 02:34:01,200
three times the more you watch it the

3749
02:34:04,790 --> 02:34:02,960
more there is there to watch

3750
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:04,800
it's with a george uh what's his name

3751
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:07,520
george clooney george clooney yep

3752
02:34:11,190 --> 02:34:09,280
very important movie

3753
02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:11,200
and it comes to cable over and over in a

3754
02:34:15,670 --> 02:34:13,359
kind of repeating cycle pattern

3755
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:15,680
tape it get your friends to watch it

3756
02:34:21,270 --> 02:34:18,399
talk about it because the ending is

3757
02:34:23,670 --> 02:34:21,280
really important to pay attention to

3758
02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:23,680
it's about keeping us down on the farm

3759
02:34:28,630 --> 02:34:26,640
versus letting us go and become whatever

3760
02:34:31,910 --> 02:34:28,640
we can become

3761
02:34:32,790 --> 02:34:31,920
live long and prosper

3762
02:34:36,550 --> 02:34:32,800
and

3763
02:34:37,830 --> 02:34:36,560
with that i'm i'm going to once again uh

3764
02:34:40,389 --> 02:34:37,840
thank you very much for for your

3765
02:34:42,389 --> 02:34:40,399
kindness and for your time uh richard oh

3766
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:42,399
it's been fun we got to do it again oh

3767
02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:44,880
definitely

3768
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:46,560
come on we're both in the same business

3769
02:34:49,990 --> 02:34:48,479
we're trying to create the future

3770
02:34:52,630 --> 02:34:50,000
remember we're not going to walk into it

3771
02:34:54,790 --> 02:34:52,640
blindly the mission now is to create the

3772
02:34:56,469 --> 02:34:54,800
future we want that's what the physics

3773
02:34:59,510 --> 02:34:56,479
has been telling me that this is not

3774
02:35:01,590 --> 02:34:59,520
just a battle between various visions of

3775
02:35:03,670 --> 02:35:01,600
the future this is a battle for who's

3776
02:35:05,830 --> 02:35:03,680
going to control it and we don't want

3777
02:35:07,910 --> 02:35:05,840
the one that they want to control we

3778
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:07,920
want our future

3779
02:35:11,349 --> 02:35:09,760
but we have to work for it and that

3780
02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:11,359
means we have to get out there and

3781
02:35:15,510 --> 02:35:13,600
proselytize and tell more people that

3782
02:35:17,750 --> 02:35:15,520
the fake news that trump keeps talking

3783
02:35:19,110 --> 02:35:17,760
about is not just about politics it's

3784
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:19,120
about everything

3785
02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:21,760
including probably einstein's theory of

3786
02:35:26,950 --> 02:35:23,920
relativity which has limited us to the

3787
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:26,960
solar system since the 1900s

3788
02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:30,080
maybe that's not totally true or true at

3789
02:35:36,150 --> 02:35:33,120
all and if not we can go to tabby's star

3790
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:36,160
and find out what's really there in our

3791
02:35:42,630 --> 02:35:41,429
and in that lifetime we hope to be able

3792
02:35:45,110 --> 02:35:42,640
to go there with you and i hope to be

3793
02:35:47,510 --> 02:35:45,120
able to go there with you on the show

3794
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:47,520
and that's a very excellent subject to

3795
02:35:51,910 --> 02:35:49,920
be able to start off with um

3796
02:35:54,070 --> 02:35:51,920
richard have yourself a wonderful night

3797
02:35:55,429 --> 02:35:54,080
uh and a great weekend it's much

3798
02:35:57,030 --> 02:35:55,439
appreciated

3799
02:36:00,070 --> 02:35:57,040
well thank you chris and please invite

3800
02:36:02,950 --> 02:36:00,080
me back oh definitely um uh next up on

3801
02:36:04,550 --> 02:36:02,960
the program we are going to be having a

3802
02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:04,560
special treat

3803
02:36:07,990 --> 02:36:06,399
oh that is uh actually you know we'll

3804
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:08,000
play the jazz song for now uh richard

3805
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:09,280
have yourself a good night i will talk

3806
02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:11,040
to you soon and i sent you that email by

3807
02:36:15,830 --> 02:36:12,160
the way

3808
02:36:18,790 --> 02:36:15,840
with my producer cynthia

3809
02:36:19,750 --> 02:36:18,800
i have i i sent her an email uh stating

3810
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:19,760
that

3811
02:36:23,190 --> 02:36:21,120
um our

3812
02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:23,200
well i was having uh email issues i

3813
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:24,240
think and i'm not even sure if that

3814
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:25,760
emails was sent out to her i think i'm

3815
02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:27,680
still having issues because i'd like to

3816
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:30,000
post a copy of this conversation on our

3817
02:36:32,150 --> 02:36:31,120
on our website the other side of

3818
02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:32,160
midnight

3819
02:36:35,349 --> 02:36:33,280
um i

3820
02:36:36,870 --> 02:36:35,359
let me yes i'll be able to send that out

3821
02:36:39,429 --> 02:36:36,880
as soon as i get it up which will which

3822
02:36:40,950 --> 02:36:39,439
will advertise the denim lord and i very

3823
02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:40,960
much appreciate that

3824
02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:42,240
thank you very much

3825
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:44,160
have yourself a wonderful night

3826
02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:52,469
and

3827
02:36:56,389 --> 02:36:54,640
where is it there we go

3828
02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:56,399
and ladies and gentlemen i'd like to say

3829
02:37:00,309 --> 02:36:58,399
thank you so much we are still on the

3830
02:37:02,830 --> 02:37:00,319
program i'm gonna try and get through

3831
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:02,840
this last segment before my wife

3832
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:05,680
um asks where i am

3833
02:37:09,510 --> 02:37:08,319
she always says as long as we can get to

3834
02:37:11,910 --> 02:37:09,520
the end of the show sometime before

3835
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:11,920
midnight and i know that it is a little

3836
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:13,760
later than we expected

3837
02:37:19,030 --> 02:37:15,439
but we are still

3838
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:19,040
going to get there um a gentleman if you

3839
02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:20,560
are ready i'm going to be calling you

3840
02:37:25,190 --> 02:37:23,200
one by one and bringing you in

3841
02:37:27,110 --> 02:37:25,200
for the sammich corner and i'm going to

3842
02:37:28,960 --> 02:37:27,120
see if i can turn up that bass

3843
02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:28,970
bass bass

3844
02:37:32,150 --> 02:37:30,160
[Music]

3845
02:37:35,830 --> 02:37:32,160
there we go ladies and gentlemen thank

3846
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:35,840
you so much and uh richard c hoagland

3847
02:37:39,349 --> 02:37:37,520
oh my goodness what a man

3848
02:37:41,830 --> 02:37:39,359
a mutual friend of ours who put us in

3849
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:41,840
contact with one another said he is one

3850
02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:44,560
of the kindest men uh you'll ever meet

3851
02:37:48,630 --> 02:37:47,120
in this business and

3852
02:37:50,630 --> 02:37:48,640
you know what i'm

3853
02:37:52,309 --> 02:37:50,640
it's so awesome

3854
02:37:54,950 --> 02:37:52,319
when you get to talk to people that you

3855
02:37:56,630 --> 02:37:54,960
got to talk to or listen to when you

3856
02:37:58,950 --> 02:37:56,640
were a kid this is one of the reasons i

3857
02:38:01,110 --> 02:37:58,960
do this show it is so cool

3858
02:38:02,389 --> 02:38:01,120
and with that

3859
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:02,399
i'm going to see

3860
02:38:06,550 --> 02:38:04,000
if

3861
02:38:09,670 --> 02:38:06,560
the gentlemen are ready

3862
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:13,130
see can we do the sandwich counter

3863
02:38:19,190 --> 02:38:16,640
[Music]

3864
02:38:23,270 --> 02:38:21,510
denver

3865
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:23,280
yeah how's it going i'm going to see if

3866
02:38:26,309 --> 02:38:24,479
i can get michael on here i know that

3867
02:38:27,650 --> 02:38:26,319
he's an hour behind us

3868
02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:27,660
okay so

3869
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:43,190
now just to be able to give everyone an

3870
02:38:49,510 --> 02:38:46,800
update last week on the program uh we

3871
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:49,520
actually had a wonderful sandwich

3872
02:38:53,030 --> 02:38:51,439
uh that was coming to

3873
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:53,040
us

3874
02:38:56,469 --> 02:38:55,520
from my own head again

3875
02:38:58,400 --> 02:38:56,479
and

3876
02:39:00,870 --> 02:38:58,410
i want to show it all to you it is a

3877
02:39:02,630 --> 02:39:00,880
[Music]

3878
02:39:03,470 --> 02:39:02,640
three cheese

3879
02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:03,480
bacon sandwich

3880
02:39:06,630 --> 02:39:05,280
[Music]

3881
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:06,640
wrong direction

3882
02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:08,560
and three cheese so it's already old

3883
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:10,960
swiss as well as

3884
02:39:16,150 --> 02:39:13,520
a uh whatever cracker barrel

3885
02:39:17,349 --> 02:39:16,160
stuff that i could actually find and

3886
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:17,359
again these are pictures from from

3887
02:39:21,349 --> 02:39:19,600
michael huntington and michael again i

3888
02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:21,359
do apologize we couldn't get to the

3889
02:39:25,190 --> 02:39:23,120
program things have been a little bit

3890
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:25,200
crazy i think he may actually be online

3891
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:32,630
because i told him like if you're up

3892
02:39:37,990 --> 02:39:34,960
give me 15 minutes we'll we'll get

3893
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:38,000
through this segment and

3894
02:39:40,570 --> 02:39:39,040
we're gonna

3895
02:39:44,389 --> 02:39:40,580
kick some butt

3896
02:39:44,399 --> 02:39:48,469
so how did your sandwich go

3897
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:49,590
denver

3898
02:39:53,910 --> 02:39:52,080
oh yeah i mean it was it was really good

3899
02:39:55,990 --> 02:39:53,920
it doesn't uh you know i didn't take

3900
02:39:57,270 --> 02:39:56,000
pictures of mine and it uh certainly

3901
02:40:00,150 --> 02:39:57,280
doesn't uh

3902
02:40:02,870 --> 02:40:00,160
look as good as uh michael's but uh yeah

3903
02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:02,880
man this was uh this was a nine in my

3904
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:05,280
book

3905
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:07,600
okay so you said nine

3906
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:09,520
kind of like yeah i mean this kind of

3907
02:40:13,990 --> 02:40:11,520
sandwich i mean this is uh online

3908
02:40:17,110 --> 02:40:14,000
problems all night this is just you know

3909
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:17,120
cheese and bacon and bread i mean that's

3910
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:20,000
you know no no no goofy ingredients this

3911
02:40:25,349 --> 02:40:23,359
is just a just a damn good sandwich

3912
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:25,359
and i

3913
02:40:29,190 --> 02:40:28,160
you know i'll i'll be frank and honest

3914
02:40:31,429 --> 02:40:29,200
um

3915
02:40:33,190 --> 02:40:31,439
i had no cheese at home i had the

3916
02:40:34,790 --> 02:40:33,200
cracker barrel

3917
02:40:36,469 --> 02:40:34,800
i still i know this sandwich i know it

3918
02:40:39,349 --> 02:40:36,479
very well it is it is my my wife's

3919
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:39,359
recipe and i love her to death for it

3920
02:40:41,990 --> 02:40:40,399
and

3921
02:40:43,429 --> 02:40:42,000
i'm going to give this a 9 as well

3922
02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:43,439
because it is one of those sandwiches

3923
02:40:46,870 --> 02:40:45,040
that if you eat it

3924
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:46,880
it is going to

3925
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:49,680
fill you right up now i'm

3926
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:52,080
assuming that oh my goodness

3927
02:40:56,309 --> 02:40:53,760
can you see this of course of course i

3928
02:40:58,790 --> 02:40:56,319
haven't sh yeah that that looks yeah his

3929
02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:58,800
looks really yeah you know not only you

3930
02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:00,000
know is he a

3931
02:41:05,510 --> 02:41:02,560
you know a chef but he's an amazing

3932
02:41:07,990 --> 02:41:05,520
food photographer that is an art in and

3933
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:08,000
of itself

3934
02:41:16,870 --> 02:41:09,760
and

3935
02:41:18,389 --> 02:41:16,880
i could make you basically make a

3936
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:18,399
grilled cheese sandwich but you have

3937
02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:19,840
bacon

3938
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:21,040
and

3939
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:22,960
you use three types of cheese aged

3940
02:41:29,349 --> 02:41:27,359
cheddar havarti as well as a

3941
02:41:31,190 --> 02:41:29,359
third cracker barrel random cheese and

3942
02:41:33,429 --> 02:41:31,200
pretty much if you don't know that

3943
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:33,439
cheese or if you don't have it i

3944
02:41:37,110 --> 02:41:35,040
actually looked on the craft website and

3945
02:41:38,150 --> 02:41:37,120
it was absolutely

3946
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:38,160
horrible

3947
02:41:41,190 --> 02:41:39,840
for a design for website everything was

3948
02:41:42,389 --> 02:41:41,200
labeled the same

3949
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:42,399
and i just couldn't i just couldn't deal

3950
02:41:45,910 --> 02:41:44,000
with it i'm like i can't i can't deal

3951
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:45,920
with this right now

3952
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:47,359
but

3953
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:50,240
uh michael i am oh my goodness

3954
02:41:54,550 --> 02:41:52,880
michael i'm going to say

3955
02:41:56,870 --> 02:41:54,560
you sir

3956
02:41:58,389 --> 02:41:56,880
are oh okay this is the cracker barrel

3957
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:58,399
cheese and i use yes i use kirkland

3958
02:42:01,270 --> 02:41:59,920
bacon

3959
02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:01,280
and i actually that was that the only

3960
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:03,040
one that i took oh my goodness

3961
02:42:05,830 --> 02:42:04,160
it's the only one that apparently i

3962
02:42:08,150 --> 02:42:05,840
uploaded but that's the cracker barrel

3963
02:42:10,469 --> 02:42:08,160
cheese i said you got to use it's a herb

3964
02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:10,479
and garlic cheddar herb and garlic

3965
02:42:15,030 --> 02:42:13,200
cheddar so if you can find that use it

3966
02:42:16,870 --> 02:42:15,040
but still i'm assuming this is

3967
02:42:19,270 --> 02:42:16,880
absolutely fantastic now i'm going to

3968
02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:19,280
say next week i'm actually going to do a

3969
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:20,479
separate sandwich counter i'm going to

3970
02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:22,160
get you guys on the show like we can do

3971
02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:24,640
it on a cryptozoology or a

3972
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:26,720
crypto corner and i want to get

3973
02:42:30,230 --> 02:42:28,800
michael's opinion on this because

3974
02:42:31,910 --> 02:42:30,240
even though i say it's a nine and he

3975
02:42:33,429 --> 02:42:31,920
says it's a nine or i'm sorry you say

3976
02:42:35,190 --> 02:42:33,439
it's a nine

3977
02:42:37,590 --> 02:42:35,200
i want to know what he thinks because

3978
02:42:38,950 --> 02:42:37,600
this thing looks absolutely phenomenal

3979
02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:38,960
and michael

3980
02:42:42,230 --> 02:42:41,040
you're not only a

3981
02:42:47,110 --> 02:42:42,240
wonderful

3982
02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:47,120
researcher and writer you are also one

3983
02:42:52,830 --> 02:42:48,800
of the best sandwich chefs i've ever

3984
02:42:58,790 --> 02:42:56,469
but double check here

3985
02:43:01,429 --> 02:42:58,800
and and look at his photography work

3986
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:01,439
with it you know food photography that

3987
02:43:06,230 --> 02:43:04,479
is you know very specialized brand of

3988
02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:06,240
photography

3989
02:43:08,950 --> 02:43:07,760
and i just keep switching back and forth

3990
02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:08,960
here i think this is just like taken

3991
02:43:13,910 --> 02:43:10,720
with an iphone

3992
02:43:17,270 --> 02:43:13,920
well like michael you are yeah he's just

3993
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:17,280
awesome oh my goodness no

3994
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:21,040
let's see he stages it so well you know

3995
02:43:24,389 --> 02:43:22,960
well he's a chef he's an actual chef not

3996
02:43:26,389 --> 02:43:24,399
only is he a chef he's also a travel

3997
02:43:29,270 --> 02:43:26,399
writer for ufology

3998
02:43:32,710 --> 02:43:31,349
um

3999
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:32,720
again

4000
02:43:37,270 --> 02:43:34,960
for michael huntington strange travels

4001
02:43:40,790 --> 02:43:37,280
for all your ufo um

4002
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:40,800
news needs as well as just strange

4003
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:42,640
travel stories that he his wife and his

4004
02:43:47,990 --> 02:43:45,520
family uh

4005
02:43:49,349 --> 02:43:48,000
well basically had experience and and

4006
02:43:51,110 --> 02:43:49,359
talk about

4007
02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:51,120
i'm i'm also gonna you know give a good

4008
02:43:55,670 --> 02:43:52,800
shout out to den from michaels.net if

4009
02:43:57,030 --> 02:43:55,680
you like cryptozoology blogs uh it's one

4010
02:43:58,309 --> 02:43:57,040
of these most straightforward ones

4011
02:44:00,790 --> 02:43:58,319
you'll find

4012
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:00,800
both of these guys do have

4013
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:03,200
extensive libraries uh michael

4014
02:44:08,870 --> 02:44:06,000
huntington's actually been on oh culture

4015
02:44:11,110 --> 02:44:08,880
twice which is cool as hell i'm like i

4016
02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:11,120
know michael

4017
02:44:15,030 --> 02:44:13,200
and truth be told

4018
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:15,040
you know with both of you guys on here

4019
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:17,120
it adds that little extra flavor a

4020
02:44:20,790 --> 02:44:19,200
little extra spice

4021
02:44:22,070 --> 02:44:20,800
that it it's

4022
02:44:24,469 --> 02:44:22,080
you know it makes this place a little

4023
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:24,479
bit warmer to be we talk about ancient

4024
02:44:26,630 --> 02:44:25,840
history and you know the end of the

4025
02:44:28,309 --> 02:44:26,640
earth

4026
02:44:30,630 --> 02:44:28,319
and then we talk about

4027
02:44:32,230 --> 02:44:30,640
sandwiches and i'm

4028
02:44:34,150 --> 02:44:32,240
you know i'm i'm just absolutely blessed

4029
02:44:35,510 --> 02:44:34,160
to have you guys on here

4030
02:44:38,550 --> 02:44:35,520
uh also

4031
02:44:39,910 --> 02:44:38,560
again uh hobby i i do apologize i didn't

4032
02:44:41,790 --> 02:44:39,920
give you a shout out

4033
02:44:44,469 --> 02:44:41,800
thank you very much for your

4034
02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:44,479
denivlore.com forward slash support

4035
02:44:48,469 --> 02:44:46,720
uh monthly donation

4036
02:44:50,870 --> 02:44:48,479
of five dollars a month to be able to

4037
02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:50,880
support the program keep the lights on

4038
02:44:54,790 --> 02:44:52,479
and make sure that we're at least

4039
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:54,800
revenue neutral we're almost at that

4040
02:44:59,269 --> 02:44:57,279
goal of being being able to at least pay

4041
02:45:00,790 --> 02:44:59,279
the bills and keep the lights on

4042
02:45:02,870 --> 02:45:00,800
uh my wife has told me we're gonna

4043
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:02,880
actually move the studio downstairs like

4044
02:45:05,990 --> 02:45:04,319
at the end of

4045
02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:06,000
september i think no actually at the end

4046
02:45:09,190 --> 02:45:07,760
of the month i've got until

4047
02:45:12,830 --> 02:45:09,200
our one

4048
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:12,840
month to have the new studio up and

4049
02:45:17,590 --> 02:45:15,200
running so

4050
02:45:20,550 --> 02:45:17,600
your donations and support is greatly

4051
02:45:21,830 --> 02:45:20,560
appreciated keep us sponsor free

4052
02:45:22,870 --> 02:45:21,840
with our audience i could go out and get

4053
02:45:24,469 --> 02:45:22,880
sponsors

4054
02:45:26,870 --> 02:45:24,479
i've i've been offered

4055
02:45:28,550 --> 02:45:26,880
i've talked to some originally when we

4056
02:45:29,990 --> 02:45:28,560
first started i said okay no no we're

4057
02:45:31,990 --> 02:45:30,000
not going to do that because i want to

4058
02:45:33,990 --> 02:45:32,000
be answerable to you guys and only to

4059
02:45:35,750 --> 02:45:34,000
you guys not to the guys that are paying

4060
02:45:37,670 --> 02:45:35,760
the paychecks to to

4061
02:45:39,110 --> 02:45:37,680
provide their products and when i'm

4062
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:39,120
doing stuff like this and plug in my

4063
02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:40,720
friends it's because you know what i'd

4064
02:45:44,950 --> 02:45:42,399
like to support people i love to make

4065
02:45:47,269 --> 02:45:44,960
sure that people i care about do well

4066
02:45:49,590 --> 02:45:47,279
and oh my goodness apparently they're

4067
02:45:50,469 --> 02:45:49,600
also well fed

4068
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:50,479
so

4069
02:45:54,070 --> 02:45:52,080
i'm gonna i'm not gonna announce the

4070
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:54,080
sandwich on this show

4071
02:45:57,429 --> 02:45:55,600
i'm going to wait until i can get

4072
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:57,439
michael on here until i can get his

4073
02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:58,399
rating

4074
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:59,520
but um

4075
02:46:02,469 --> 02:46:01,359
you know

4076
02:46:03,910 --> 02:46:02,479
at least at that point it'll get you a

4077
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:03,920
chance to either

4078
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:06,160
uh get pictures up on another one and

4079
02:46:08,950 --> 02:46:07,359
for me to be able to get pictures up on

4080
02:46:10,630 --> 02:46:08,960
another one i haven't i

4081
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:10,640
actually ate one on the show last week

4082
02:46:13,750 --> 02:46:12,479
for anyone who watched and it didn't go

4083
02:46:15,510 --> 02:46:13,760
so well

4084
02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:15,520
i said this is probably not a good thing

4085
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:17,040
to try and repeat

4086
02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:25,830
so i'm gonna say

4087
02:46:25,840 --> 02:46:29,670
i'm actually very hungry right now

4088
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,630
yeah look at that uh i'm getting

4089
02:46:37,510 --> 02:46:35,279
slammed here with

4090
02:46:39,190 --> 02:46:37,520
oh there's my email i'm just going to

4091
02:46:41,190 --> 02:46:39,200
turn off that side of the screen that's

4092
02:46:42,710 --> 02:46:41,200
the skype there we go so denver what do

4093
02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:42,720
you got going on this week so you've got

4094
02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:44,720
the the test going on this weekend

4095
02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:46,720
you're going to try and get some video

4096
02:46:51,269 --> 02:46:49,840
i probably will not be this weekend it

4097
02:46:54,469 --> 02:46:51,279
looks like it's going to be next weekend

4098
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:54,479
we're expecting heavy rain saturday um

4099
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:57,439
sunday i'm not sure about but i know my

4100
02:47:01,750 --> 02:46:59,840
sister can't get together with me sunday

4101
02:47:04,630 --> 02:47:01,760
so it's probably going to be the

4102
02:47:07,030 --> 02:47:04,640
following weekend

4103
02:47:10,309 --> 02:47:07,040
okay so at least at that time we want to

4104
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:10,319
have weather as close as we can to the

4105
02:47:14,950 --> 02:47:12,399
day that she had the siding you know

4106
02:47:18,550 --> 02:47:14,960
just the you know you want conditions to

4107
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:21,510
and i want to make sure that we can

4108
02:47:25,750 --> 02:47:23,359
get that up there

4109
02:47:27,110 --> 02:47:25,760
so again uh google strange travels

4110
02:47:28,150 --> 02:47:27,120
michael huntington go check out the

4111
02:47:28,990 --> 02:47:28,160
website

4112
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:29,000
um

4113
02:47:33,030 --> 02:47:30,880
denvermichaels.net

4114
02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:33,040
his books i believe are available on

4115
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:34,560
amazon kindle download you can get your

4116
02:47:38,469 --> 02:47:35,680
hard copy

4117
02:47:40,950 --> 02:47:38,479
and uh all as well please do support the

4118
02:47:43,510 --> 02:47:40,960
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4119
02:47:45,110 --> 02:47:43,520
forward forward slashdown of lore

4120
02:47:47,030 --> 02:47:45,120
this month has been a [\h__\h] show i'm

4121
02:47:48,790 --> 02:47:47,040
gonna be honest with you i normally have

4122
02:47:50,309 --> 02:47:48,800
the episodes up you know the next you

4123
02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:50,319
know the next week at least what if it's

4124
02:47:53,110 --> 02:47:52,240
not monday it's wednesday

4125
02:47:55,590 --> 02:47:53,120
um

4126
02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:55,600
from the fifth of the month so the

4127
02:47:59,429 --> 02:47:57,359
saturday

4128
02:48:00,870 --> 02:47:59,439
after our first episode of michael up

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until now

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i've essentially been doing about 22

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hours a day every single day

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monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday

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saturday for the symposium

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for

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just just to be able to work with you

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know great people like cameron wilshire

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and uh

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jimmy church from from fade to black to

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help clay uh get this you know

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get the funding going to bring john home

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um there is an official statement on the

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uh on the website and also on my

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facebook page uh thanking everybody in

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addition to graham hancock for leading

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the way and being that that shining

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example of how to be able to you know

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treat treat a friend and and and help

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somebody out

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i do this because if if he's inspiring

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me i want to be able to inspire you guys

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go check out the funny page if you if

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every single person who listens to this

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show fade to black and checks out sacred

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geometry international donated one

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dollar one dollar we would blow the 39

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thousand dollars that is left to get jon

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home out of the water within like a day

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if need be

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so

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um the symposium is on sacred geometry

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international it's 12 hours i'd been up

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for 72 at that point like with no sleep

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so please do excuse my almost dying on

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air because it was also 35 degrees just

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giving you a heads up on that right now

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uh ladies and gentlemen this has been

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02:49:23,110 --> 02:49:21,680
another episode of den of lore i want to

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say thank you

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very much for all of you for tuning in

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every single week um again

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it's it's a pleasure and honor to be

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able to have you all here

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joining me and being part of the den of

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lore family and being in denizen uh

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denver did you want me to play the outro

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music

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yeah go ahead all right so

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whatever you like surprise me

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well i think we have an official outro

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music now that's true that's true you do

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let's see if i can find it

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that's not it

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is that it

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all right

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there we go

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there it is ladies and gentlemen um and

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i keep saying ladies and denizens my

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friends um craig flowers uh thank you

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very much for

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um saying i'm killing it

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again you guys keep tuning in and i keep

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doing it because you guys keep tuning in

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02:50:27,269 --> 02:50:24,640
i'm doing something you guys like i'm

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just happy that you appreciate

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and um you know you support the show

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it's

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you know that's why i do this

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well this is a hobby

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so please

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what i want you to do

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is

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bear with me um

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post on my wall if you can actually do

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that and i'm going to approve them post

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on my wall

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and just

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say chris's wife

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we love this show

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we wanted to go on and sorry for it

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being one o'clock in the morning

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show me some love on facebook um just so

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i can i can show her and say see

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you'd be great

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lover i love her to death i love her to

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death i do

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and

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yeah it'll give me a good a good

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conversation piece

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for the morning

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so all of you out there whether you are

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in north america south america australia

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02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:23,200
um india

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02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:25,040
patagonia

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the the wilds of

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northern russia

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saudi arabia

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um we got some from there

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lebanon croatia france we're we're like

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02:51:38,870 --> 02:51:36,560
we're like in a hundred countries now at

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this point every single week i gotta say

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thank you all for supporting wherever

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02:51:44,710 --> 02:51:42,479
you are whomever you may be

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02:51:46,790 --> 02:51:44,720
for being a denizen we are united by one

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02:51:48,070 --> 02:51:46,800
thing and one thing only learning some

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02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:48,080
cool [\h__\h]

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and until i see you next time when i

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actually have some scotch in the den i

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will share a classic glenn then

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[Music]

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ciao i think ciao

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02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:02,950
oh this is next week seven oh by the way

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yes uh crypto corner go check it out new

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02:52:08,710 --> 02:52:07,279
segment with denver we have fun

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02:52:14,460 --> 02:52:08,720
um

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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oh

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now